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Postby robbiestoupe » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:44 am

Different mound conditions between the bullpen and the field. Yes, limit the throws. But again, length of commercial time also helps contribute to this. Give em 5 throws and then let’s get on with it.
Have these pitchers never pitched on an MLB mound before? Do they suddenly forget?

And even if I were somehow convinced mound conditions or warmup pitches make a big difference, so be it. Make that part of the strategy in deciding to switch pitchers for every batter.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:48 am

thats a good way to get injured

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:49 am

when you come into a game at any level, the mound has wear from the guys throwing before you, there's a hole where their stride hits that's probably different from where your foot lands. the dirt on the mound is scraped away.. the 5-8 pitches or whatever isn't the issue in today's game. Ban adjusting batting gloves between pitches and you'll shave 20 minutes off every game

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Postby faftorial » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:52 am

Ban batting gloves and while you're at it, those mittens worn by some base runners.

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Postby King Colby » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:23 pm

Seriously, just make the batter stay in the box and give him 1 step out per plate appearance or something.

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Postby dodint » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:51 am

As opposed to a clothed penis?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:12 am

He fired now.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:16 pm

37 days as GM. Impressive.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:32 am

hm, so Hank Aaron's death led me to this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Lea ... -Time_Team

that was voted on in '97 and I was thinking about what should/would change 23 years later

only things I can think of is putting Jeter as either the runner up or bumping Wagner down to runner up for shortstop, putting Ortiz in for DH over Baines and Mariano as the first team relief pitcher and bump Eckersley down to runner up

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:36 am

Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in any sport, ever.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:41 am

Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in any sport, ever.
my man

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:46 am

he might be overrated being a Yankee but he has the 6th most hits ever. I think he's one of the greatest players ever regardless

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:49 am

hey look, a bad take from mimh

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Postby shafnutz05 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:14 pm

Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in any sport, ever.
my man
I am no fan of the Yankees, or Jeter for that matter, but just curious as to the argument behind this. Almost 3,500 hits, .310 career BA, lots of homers and SBs, handful of Gold Gloves. Of course, even with all that he can still be overrated, just curious what the rationale is.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:16 pm

Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in any sport, ever.
my man
I am no fan of the Yankees, or Jeter for that matter, but just curious as to the argument behind this. Almost 3,500 hits, .310 career BA, lots of homers and SBs, handful of Gold Gloves. Of course, even with all that he can still be overrated, just curious what the rationale is.
was reading today that his defense is overrated. He doesn't have many errors but according to advanced metrics, he was a below average shortstop (not much range and an ok arm)

that said, he was a good enough defensive player, a great offensive player and an alltime leader

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:44 pm

Jeter didn't hit lots of homers. He never hit more than 24 in a season during an era with watered down pitching due to expansion, plus steroids, plus a juiced ball. His career slugging of .440 is way behind his peers (nomar, arod) and even against the GOATS (Banks, Wagner) from a different era. Singles hitter with a good eye and mediocre range stacked teams.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:51 pm

Jeter was a great contact hitter and that's the only thing he was exceptional at imo. Decent speed, decent fielder, decent pop.. Being pretty good at most of the game doesn't get you a seat at the all time greats table imo.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:52 pm

Surefire HOF? Yes of course. One of the all time GOATs? No, imo

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:58 pm

Yeah but even an ok hitting shortstop is well above average for that position

Other than Ripken and Wagner, who’s in the GOAT SS conversation?

I guess Ernie Banks but that’s it. I disqualify ARod as a third baseman and juicer and Ozzie Smith wasn’t good enough offensively

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Postby MWB » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:27 pm

Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in any sport, ever.
Ha, bad take.

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Postby MWB » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:42 pm

Jeter didn't hit lots of homers. He never hit more than 24 in a season during an era with watered down pitching due to expansion, plus steroids, plus a juiced ball. His career slugging of .440 is way behind his peers (nomar, arod) and even against the GOATS (Banks, Wagner) from a different era. Singles hitter with a good eye and mediocre range stacked teams.
This is such a “modern baseball” take. He didn’t hit a ton of homers, so should be pegged down? Not everyone is a home run hitter. Career .377 obp. 162 game averages of 15HR, 113 runs and 77 rbi (as mostly lead off and 2 hitter). His defense was spectacular at times, but consistently average at best. Arod was a better shortstop, but also had ped issues. Nomar was great, for a short stretch. Jeter was consistently among the best hitters (not power hitters) for about 17 years. Again, not great defensively, but smart plays. Same with base running. Not the fastest, but 20 steals a year and didn’t make dumb outs. If you’re not looking for a power hitter, he’s incredibly complete.

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Postby King Colby » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:01 pm

Eh, I'm back and forth on Jeter. His runs and RBI stats do nothing for me, those have a pretty significant Yankee factor. One of the best hitting shortstops ever though.

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Postby MWB » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:21 pm

For several seasons, specifically early in his career when the Yankees weren’t full on spend dump truck loads of money on people, jeter was the best hitter in the team. Certainly talent around him helped with counting numbers, but his consistency year to year with them kind of shows it was mostly him.

And postseason... he essentially played a full season of playoff baseball (158 games). His numbers are nearly identical to he average regular season (exception being his slugging was 25 points higher). Impressive considering the number of quality pitchers you face in the playoffs.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:26 am

Surefire HOF? Yes of course. One of the all time GOATs? No, imo
This makes sense.

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