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Postby Dickie Dunn » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:27 pm

He sucks and they got nothing for Stallings. Weird.

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Postby faftorial » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:43 pm

Pérez hit .149 last season and .165 in 2020.

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Postby King Colby » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:18 pm

5 million? Wasnt Stallings worth 2.6?

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:21 pm

Yeah, Stallings wasn't a salary dump, it was "if we want to get value for this guy, we need to trade him now".

Whether or not that is based in reality or not, is unclear (was value actually obtained, and is Stallings just going to be worth less as he gets older, more expense, and closer to FA).

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Postby willeyeam » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:35 pm

They sold Stallings at his peak imo, I don't think he provides much more for much longer. Whether they got enough to justify actually doing that, ehh

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Postby King Colby » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:42 pm

Oh for sure. And confirmed by this perez signing. They had to have perceived the deal they got for Stallings as a slam dunk. Guess we'll find out if that guy can be a serviceable starter.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:22 pm

Why sell him though? How about get some value by actually having him play baseball?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:24 pm

We’re not here for baseball value.

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Postby King Colby » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:34 pm

Kuhl officially non-tendered. Newman signed for 1.95M. Reynolds and Stratton tendered

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:36 pm

Newman overpaid.

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Postby faftorial » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:30 pm

Given the salaries in MLB I disagree. Dude was the batting king of 2021 Spring Training.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:41 pm

People forget

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Postby LeopardLetang » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:18 pm

I didn't watch the games so didn't have to suffer his offense but on paper you'd hope he could split the difference from his 2019 season

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Postby Troy Loney » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:47 am

The four pirate guys should demand to be signed as a package


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Postby Troy Loney » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:02 am

Good read on the mlb landscape.



He makes a really good point about the pirates and orioles near the bottom. There is something that is cruel to the fans about a massive rebuild sequence with no timetable. When you continue making no effort to improve the big league team, and actually keep making it worse, are you actually rebuilding?

Also, it is hard to win in baseball, especially when you aren’t one of the 5-6 teams built to compete each year. I do think 2016-2019 they were trying, NH, under financial constraints, made a ton of terrible moves, then nutting hired this guy and let him gut the entire organization. Now, it just seems like he’s letting bc use the team to play baseball mogul or whatever simulator people play now.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:20 am

I'll take Boyd

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:26 am



Good, losing Thomas and possibly Martin would have sucked

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:34 am

Maybe GMBC has a big brain afterall.

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Postby iamjs » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:49 pm

Did they remove the Teams link on MLB.com?
https://www.mlb.com/


Former Pirate related
(Quick, who retired in 1998, did not respond to an interview request sent through the MLB Umpires Association. Mondesi, recently sentenced to eight years in a Dominican Republic prison on corruption charges, could not be reached for comment.)
https://www.mlb.com/news/featured/dodge ... rfeit-1995

Are they sure this is recent? Why do I feel like this was 2-3 years ago?

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:42 am

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the ... 1,1&type=0

Early 2022 draft rankings, Green not the shoe-in, also looks bat heavy. Also, top of the 2023 class already can be seen on that link. Looks like a better class (at least at the top).

So big brain GMBC extending the tank (at least) one more year to reap those rewards.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:36 pm

Nutting sold 7 Springs

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Postby MR25 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:41 pm

Sounds like the Pirates should be up next

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:45 pm

Vail!?! 7 Springs et al getting moved to Colorado.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:50 pm

Epic Pass would be cool if I could travel in ski season

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