You know what really grinds my gears...

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:56 am

People who leave half-assed reviews on sites like Angie's List. I need some electrical work done, so I'm trying to figure out how much I expect to pay, but reviews like 'electrical work done' are next to useless. Why are you bothering at that point?

Postby **eddy** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:26 am

People who get their electric work done via Angie's list ( I don't know what Angie's list is)

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:30 am

Basically just a home service aggregator. They had cheesy commercials back in the day, but I've actually found a number of really good contractors using them.

Postby **eddy** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:35 am

Oh, well I take back my comments then. Best of luck, electrical work scares me. A couple of little shocks will do that to a chap

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:36 am

I can run the romex myself, but it'd be a little tricky getting it to the area where the thermostat is going. And since I need an actual electrician to make the connection, I almost have no choice here.

Postby **Kane** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:01 am

Why do you need an electrician for that? I'm just curious, because wiring up a thermostat isn't difficult. I replaced one for my folks at their last house.

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:03 am

Why do you need an electrician for that? I'm just curious, because wiring up a thermostat isn't difficult. I replaced one for my folks at their last house.

Sorry, it's for Nuheat floor heating mats (under tile). 240v direct connection to their thermostat, so not like a traditional furnace thermostat.

Postby **Kane** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:11 am

Oof, yeah I'm not touching 240 either, lol.

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:18 am

Yeah, this is something I'm more than happy to let an electrician handle.

Postby **tifosi77** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm

Electricity scares me.

Postby **robbiestoupe** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:11 pm

Had a really strange electricity related dream last night. One of the lab technicians at work was being electrocuted as he was plugging in test equipment that he improperly wired. As I was yelling to not help him, the other technician grabbed a hold of him and also began to be electrocuted.

Somehow they pulled away from the circuit and just went on with their business as if nothing had happened.

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:23 am

Quote from a local company that does this work often came in at $440. That's well under what I had expected, so I'm moving forward with the entire project. The flooring itself came in $3k lower than the 'guestimate' I got over the phone.

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:27 am

In other news, I received my speed enforcement camera ticket yesterday.

6 lane roadway and the speed limit is 45. GTFO with that ****.

Postby **faftorial** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:13 am

In other news, I received my speed enforcement camera ticket yesterday. 6 lane roadway and the speed limit is 45. GTFO with that ****.

At least you were spared being pulled over.

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:14 am

This is true. I went to pay the fine online and they add a $4 convenience fee if you do so. That's a load of **** right there. Have fun cashing in a check instead.

Postby **Beveridge** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:42 am

Convenience fee is always backwards. The fee should be attached if you want to live in the 1950s and send a check. Should be called an inconvenience fee and done properly.

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:44 am

Convenience fee is always backwards. The fee should be attached if you want to live in the 1950s and send a check. Should be called an inconvenience fee and done properly.

That's my stance, as well.

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:13 am

Electricity is fun.

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:57 pm

Convenience fee is always backwards. The fee should be attached if you want to live in the 1950s and send a check. Should be called an inconvenience fee and done properly.

We've had a lot of businesses recently start charging a 3-4% convenience fee for using a debit or credit card, to offset bank charges.

I loathe them, but I get it. Sort of.

Postby **Beveridge** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:00 pm

I can understand when it's a debit or credit card, although it's still dumb but I get it because they are missing a bite. I hate when they want to charge from bank to bank. I get there is a transaction price involved there but I've seen those analysis reports and it's not anywhere near even 1% (a crumb).

Postby **faftorial** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:01 pm

Convenience fee is always backwards. The fee should be attached if you want to live in the 1950s and send a check. Should be called an inconvenience fee and done properly.

It doesn't cost them to deposit a check in their account but it does cost them to take payments with credit cards.

Postby **Beveridge** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:03 pm

Convenience fee is always backwards. The fee should be attached if you want to live in the 1950s and send a check. Should be called an inconvenience fee and done properly.
It doesn't cost them to deposit a check in their account but it does cost them to take payments with credit cards.

That's what I said in response to DG. I get card transactions, although the fee they pay is usually under 2% when it's a card.

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:27 pm

I'm glad we credit card companies charge fees to businesses because those charges help pay for NTP's free trips to Hawaii.

Postby **NTP66** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:30 pm

The $4 fee is a minimum of 4%, much higher than card transaction fees.

Postby **tifosi77** » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:31 pm

The problem with 'convenience fees' is that they are also applied if you do an EFT from a checking account, sans processing fee.

And I would think whatever de minimis amount is charged by the credit card company is offset by not having to pay a human for the time to handle a physical check.