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The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:21 am
by MrKennethTKangaroo
The Trib has a nice puff piece on Priester on their website today. Seems like a well adjusted dude. So we have that going for us, which is nice.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:41 am
by Troy Loney
Brault (2.53 ERA as a starter) and Kuhl are the veterans of the group and have shown flashes of dominance. However, injuries have prevented them from pitching well over an extended stretch.
This is some gaslighting right here from mackey

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:34 am
by MrKennethTKangaroo
Loney,

Spring training is here, everyone is gonna be blowing smoke up everyone’s ass. You gotta lean into it.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:32 pm
by iamjs
The over / under is 59.5.

That is so low, I would not feel comfortable betting the under.
They were on a 52 win pace last year. Even with jettisoning some of that dead weight, I don't know if I see enough to pick up another 8 wins.

I'll take that under of 59.5 all day.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:23 pm
by King Colby
That feels like a pretty safe under IMO. I will be pleasantly surprised if they hit 50 wins and I know that's historically bad but I really think they are that.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:22 pm
by willeyeam
It's a fact they'll be really bad. To get into win totals you have to consider the teams they're playing. Did the division get better? Cards? Ugh, yes. Cubs? No. Reds? No. Brewers? Did they do anything? Probably similar to last year. The division as a whole got worse. So I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable betting on the win total.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:02 pm
by King Colby
Brault... strings together 3 straight starts where he doesn't walk 2 guys an inning and they hit everything right at guys and cuts his era in half.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:31 pm
by Troy Loney
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-51-pros ... h-pirates/

Good piece to get a good idea of where the system is. They've already rated the best farm system (the Rays) so we get to see how well the Pirates compare. Overall depth is good, missing some top tier prospects (welcome Kumar and Green), and the mid-level depth is still lacking (they need some of these guys from the DSL to take steps forward).

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:21 pm
by robbiestoupe
Source of the post (welcome Kumar and Green)
I have to cringe at this. While Kumar is a slam dunk and GMBC should select him, there's the Pirate PTSD in me that isn't so sure. And also the fear that they'll somehow pull a Bad News Bears this year and surprise, missing out on this Green kid

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:40 pm
by MrKennethTKangaroo
what is Nick Gonzaleseses ceiling? A better version of Josh Harrison?

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:42 pm
by Troy Loney
what is Nick Gonzaleseses ceiling? A better version of Josh Harrison?
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/kesto ... osition=2B

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:32 pm
by willeyeam

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:06 pm
by LeopardLetang
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-51-pros ... h-pirates/

Good piece to get a good idea of where the system is. They've already rated the best farm system (the Rays) so we get to see how well the Pirates compare. Overall depth is good, missing some top tier prospects (welcome Kumar and Green), and the mid-level depth is still lacking (they need some of these guys from the DSL to take steps forward).
Sweet thanks!

I don't pay attention to the draft scouting but heard Leiter might be the smarter pick. Bad take? Or is that debatable. Ulf?

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:12 pm
by willeyeam
Appears the knock on Leiter was velocity but he came out last weekend in the upper 90s so he's definitely going to be moving up boards and in the conversation. Rocker's knock was relying on the fastball/slider combo, but it sounds like he came out with a pretty nice new cutter last weekend.. so could be a fun battle between them for the 1/2 picks. Not as fun for the rest of the SEC

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:14 pm
by Troy Loney
Leiter's delivery looked pretty high effort. But, I've no clue, Looks like a Bauer / Cole dilemma where you can't go wrong.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:27 pm
by willeyeam
Read this as Dexter Fowler and then realized :lol:


The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:32 pm
by faftorial
Lifetime .224 hitter.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:36 pm
by King Colby
Lifetime .224 hitter.
So he should bat in the 3 spot then?

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:58 pm
by faftorial
Anybody ready to give a lineup projection?

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:02 pm
by willeyeam
Pain

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:05 pm
by willeyeam
I don't know why I'm doing this but here goes

Alford 8
Frazier 4
Moran 3
Polanco 9
Hayes 5
Reynolds 7
Stallings 2
Tucker 6
Brault 1

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:14 pm
by MrKennethTKangaroo
Alford seems destined to fail so you’ll probably see Reynolds higher up in the order and whoever the f plays center lower in the order. I like the idea of hayes in the 5 or 2 spot.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:00 am
by King Colby
Newman 6
Frazier 4
Hayes 5
Moran 3
Reynolds 7
Stallings 2
Polanco 9
Alford 8

[Puke emoji]

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:12 am
by Troy Loney
The lineup is actually the strength of the team.

The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:14 am
by Troy Loney
Kuhl
Brault
Keller
Anderson
Brubaker / Crowe