The 2021 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Team Season Thread

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Postby Troy Loney » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:53 pm

Thinking about Keller possibly establishing himself made me want to take a look at next year's roster construction. Here is how the current roster could roll into 2022 with some arbitration raises, and assuming that they don't pick up Polanco's option:

C Stallings Arb2 2500
1B Moran Arb2 4000
2B Frazier Arb3 6000
SS Newman Arb1 1200
3B Hayes PreArb 600
OF Reynolds Arb1 2000
OF Alford PreArb 600
OF
BN Gonzalez Arb3 1225
BN Perez Arb1 800
BN Evans PreArb 600
BN
BN
SP Kuhl Arb3 3750
SP Keller PreArb 600
SP Brault Arb2 4000
SP Brubaker PreArb 600
SP
RP RichRod Arb2 3000
RP Crick Arb2 1500
RP Bednar PreArb 600
RP Stratton Arb2 1700
RP Oviedo PreArb 600
RP Underwood PreArb 600
RP
RP Holmes PreArb 600

Total 37075

I would consider all of the arb 3 guys to be potential non-tenders or dealt before 2022, so we could be talking 20,000,000 payroll in 2022. Could the payroll get that low, yes, do I think they will be in that range, not likely. I guess this just goes to say, that they've put themselves in a weird spot. They are playing at about ~55mm under their projected long term salary range (based on what they put in their financial projections). The current roster is projected to continue shedding payroll through probably 2023 (guys like Reynolds and Newman are also likely to be cut before decent arb2 pay days).

I think the ideal scenario is for Frazie, Kuhl, RichRod & Brault to all make themselves marketable at the deadline, so the players that cost something but are barely above their pre-arb counterpart are gone. Just tank again in 2022, and hopefully have something in place by then to start adding to. Even just being a hypothetical spending organization, I don't see anything to build around right now heading into 2022.

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:00 pm

Is Phillip Evans maybe okay at baseball?

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:04 pm

Troy that is a sad post. But the effort is appreciated

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Postby King Colby » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:38 pm

I liked what I saw from Evans last year. I think he might be decent.

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Postby faftorial » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:48 pm

I'm in the bottom of the 6th and they need to boot those woo'ers out.

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Postby faftorial » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:53 pm

Good to see the Pirates back on the winning track tonight. :slug:

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:59 pm

Buccos with 10 hits through 5 innings against Trevor Williams

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Postby faftorial » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:10 pm

It's good being on the other side of his pitching.

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Postby King Colby » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:27 pm

Cahill was pitching well today. And gets pulled after 82 pitches. I don't understand it

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:29 pm

Analysts

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:42 pm

Is it a sabremetrics thing or is it an early April thing?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:43 pm

Fort said sabermetrics on the radio.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 pm

How many complete games will we see with this pitching staff this season? 1? 2?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 pm

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Postby King Colby » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 pm

It's probably an April thing. The next guy got shelled though and now it's a loss.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:05 pm

Lol at the Tyler glasnow line tonight

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:30 pm

Lol at the Tyler glasnow line tonight
Glasnow is turning into something like "take all the lol @ this guy getting good after leaving pittsburgh" instances and multiplying by 30 and pouring gas on it and lighting it on fire. Its like the final boss of the pain of screwing up all these prospects

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Postby faftorial » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:31 pm

How many complete games will we see with this pitching staff this season? 1? 2?
I'll go with 1.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:35 pm

Did a three game parlay, Padres over pirates, Yankees with cole and rays with glasnow. Stars aligned

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Postby Ad@m » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:39 pm

How many complete games will we see with this pitching staff this season? 1? 2?
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The Pirates will be held to 1 hit and no hit this season.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:16 am

Philip Evans went 2-4 to get up to 406. GOAT

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:18 am

Did a three game parlay, Padres over pirates, Yankees with cole and rays with glasnow. Stars aligned
brutal parlay. did you listen to some dashboard confessional while watching this wager unfold?

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:19 am

Did a three game parlay, Padres over pirates, Yankees with cole and rays with glasnow. Stars aligned
brutal parlay. did you listen to some dashboard confessional while watching this wager unfold?
I'd say it was more giddiness being able to place a gimme bet that paid out > 3:1

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Postby willeyeam » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:46 am

lol ktk

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