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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:41 pm



Good test whether god is cruel or not

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Postby robbiestoupe » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:51 pm

Is that 97 MPH or 97 years old?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:09 pm

He can be sitting at 97 all he wants. Did he ever get it over the plate?

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:37 pm

Is that 97 MPH or 97 years old?
He's only 29 years of age. Plenty of years ahead of him to torment the bucs.

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Postby LeopardLetang » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:13 pm

After a nice career Bucs can sign him when he's 37

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:06 pm

Law's replacement at ESPN, Kiley McDaniel ranked the top 50 prospects.. top 3 below
1. Jordan Lawlar (19.0), SS, Jesuit HS (Texas), Vanderbilt commit, 55 FV

Lawlar is a little old for his prep class, but that's about the only mark against him. He's above average in all aspects and scouts mention similarities to Carlos Correa (bigger, righty-hitting shortstop with above-average tools) or Derek Jeter (all-fields approach, instincts). There isn't a 70-grade tool and Lawlar doesn't project as a superstar, but the last true shortstops with this kind of upside in the draft were Bobby Witt Jr. in 2019 and Dansby Swanson (maybe Alex Bregman) in 2015 -- all of whom were No. 1 or No. 2 overall picks.

You'd have to go back to Correa in 2012 or Francisco Lindor and Javier Baez in 2011 for true shortstops in the draft who were obviously more talented than Lawlar. Other 55 FV shortstops already in the minors are my No. 31 overall prospect Jazz Chisholm (Marlins) and No. 39 Geraldo Perdomo (D-backs).

2. Jack Leiter (21.2), RHP, Vanderbilt, 50 FV

There was a growing consensus to rank Leiter (son of Al) above Rocker in the fall, and that's now the consensus view after they've each made their first start of the season. Leiter works in the mid-90s, has an easy plus curveball and possesses the command, plan and execution you'd want to see given his power and mostly vertically oriented arsenal.

3. Kumar Rocker (21.6), RHP, Vanderbilt, 50 FV

You might be surprised to see Rocker here, but he has been largely the same since the summer after his junior year of high school. That's not a bad thing, since that means sitting in the mid-90s (up to 98 mph) with a plus slider, usable changeup and solid control, but scouts want to see more precision in his command and execution.

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Postby Beveridge » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:08 pm

TIL Jack Leiter is Al Leiter's son. He was one of my favorite pitchers as a kid.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:25 pm

Just did the rounds.

Fangraphs has Leiter, Kumar, couple other guys, then Lawler. MLB.com has Kumar first, Lawler 2, and Leiter down at 6.

I hope it's just a either/or scenario. It would suck if there was a chance to blow this pick.

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Postby Beveridge » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:27 pm

It would suck if there was a chance to blow this pick.
TL, this is the Pirates. There is always a really good chance that happens.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:33 pm

Baseball scouting grades are always so weird and underwhelming. Nonsense 20 to 80 scale with your top three picks for the draft given a future grade that is some version of average.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:55 pm

Then you take in last season...which was largely non-existent for college and most high school players. It's a crapshoot in the dark.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:41 pm

why is it that the big market nationals with a billionaire owner willing to spend money gets two slam dunk picks when they stink in back to back years (and then Anthony rendon at #6 the next year) and the pirates get stuck with this mess

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:44 am

TIL that 3 out of 4 games in spring training will be 7 innings long instead of 9. That is good, these well paid athletes cant afford to run out of gas or maybe get hurt from all of that extreme energy they expend playing baseball.

Kuhl gets the start sunday.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:47 am

42 year old, Purple Heart earning WWII vet warren Spahn threw 122 innings in 77 days and these guys cant make it through a 9 inning spring training game without getting hurt.

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Postby King Colby » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:50 am

Hawt but not my type

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:07 pm

42 year old, Purple Heart earning WWII vet warren Spahn threw 122 innings in 77 days and these guys cant make it through a 9 inning spring training game without getting hurt.
After what I went through overseas, I never thought of anything I was told to do in baseball as hard work. You get over feeling like that when you spend days on end sleeping in frozen tank tracks in enemy threatened territory.
He averaged 7 2/3 IP per game over the course of his career. Horse.

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Postby King Colby » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:26 pm

Back before every pitcher was equipped with a 100mph arm and a vagine

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Postby faftorial » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:02 pm

Back before every pitcher was equipped with a 100mph arm and a vagine
Is it that they are equipped with an 100MPH arm or that they push themselves to have the 100MPH arm? I can't imagine that pushing your body to throw a ball that fast wouldn't lead to more injuries and your shoulder/arm wearing out.

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:00 am

TIL that 3 out of 4 games in spring training will be 7 innings long instead of 9. That is good, these well paid athletes cant afford to run out of gas or maybe get hurt from all of that extreme energy they expend playing baseball.

Kuhl gets the start sunday.
1-6
Newman, Hayes, Reynolds, Moran, Polanco, Todd Frazier
Murderers row.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:49 am

:|

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:04 pm

**** troll :lol:

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#rtjr

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