2021 Steelers Offseason Thread

[willeyeam]

JuJus money this year is 1.6 mil. What were they gonna do with that cap hit?

[Morkle]

JuJus money this year is 1.6 mil. What were they gonna do with that cap hit?

Yes I get it. I'm ok with not liking it still happening. I'd have 1.6 invested in a better OL, a better MLB (if their answer is Spillane, lol), potentially another corner now if they're losing Nelson, another back-up OLB for certain, a second TE.

I'm real interested in the draft and camp cuts to see who they can grab.

JuJu brings 97 catches and 1k yards, but the impact really wasn't that great all things considered when the defense wilted with injuries and no competent replacements, and the OL aged in 4 games.

[Dickie Dunn]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculated using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

[Trip McNeely]

JuJus money this year is 1.6 mil. What were they gonna do with that cap hit?

Yes I get it. I'm ok with not liking it still happening. I'd have 1.6 invested in a better OL, a better MLB (if their answer is Spillane, lol), potentially another corner now if they're losing Nelson, another back-up OLB for certain, a second TE.

I'm real interested in the draft and camp cuts to see who they can grab.

JuJu brings 97 catches and 1k yards, but the impact really wasn't that great all things considered when the defense wilted with injuries and no competent replacements, and the OL aged in 4 games.

I just think there was zero chance they were going into the season with RayRay as their 4th receiver. They were gonna sign someone or draft someone in the first 4 rounds. With the lack of depth across the board, using that pick somewhere else law is important

[Trip McNeely]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculate using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

You cut Ebron after Ertz for the space I would assume

[willeyeam]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculate using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

Ertz cap hit is 4mm. They'd save 4 million in cap space with that trade

[Morkle]

JuJus money this year is 1.6 mil. What were they gonna do with that cap hit?

Yes I get it. I'm ok with not liking it still happening. I'd have 1.6 invested in a better OL, a better MLB (if their answer is Spillane, lol), potentially another corner now if they're losing Nelson, another back-up OLB for certain, a second TE.

I'm real interested in the draft and camp cuts to see who they can grab.

JuJu brings 97 catches and 1k yards, but the impact really wasn't that great all things considered when the defense wilted with injuries and no competent replacements, and the OL aged in 4 games.

I just think there was zero chance they were going into the season with RayRay as their 4th receiver. They were gonna sign someone or draft someone in the first 4 rounds. With the lack of depth across the board, using that pick somewhere else law is important

Fair, but how frequently do they even use that 4th/5th receiver. They could have just as easily snagged a special teams guy for vet min after camp cuts and been fine.

The only reason why Ray Ray was used to much, is because of those bum ass jet sweeps. Especially if they draft an RB, those needs go down.

[Morkle]

[Dickie Dunn]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculate using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

Ertz cap hit is 4mm. They'd save 4 million in cap space with that trade

Trading Ertz would open $4MM in cap space for the Eagles, but the acquiring team would be on the hook for a cap hit of $8.25MM. Nelson has a cap hit of $14.3MM, cutting or trading him would free up $8.25MM in cap space while incurring a dead money hit of $6.17MM. On the Eagles side, trading for Nelson instead of outright releasing Ertz would turn that $4MM cap savings into a $3.6MM increase in cap spending.

[Dickie Dunn]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculate using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

You cut Ebron after Ertz for the space I would assume

While I would gladly take prime Ertz over Ebron, Ebron is three years younger and was not so significantly terrible last year that it would make sense for a cash strapped team to acquire a more expensive player (in the roundabout accounting of the NFL's salary cap) in Zach Ertz. The Steelers already have enough of a positional issue at TE with Ebron backed up by Gentry and Rader. Trading Nelson for Ertz (financial wash) and then cutting Ebron ($3MM in dead money, $5.5MM in cap savings) does not significantly help the position or the financial situation.

[willeyeam]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculate using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

Ertz cap hit is 4mm. They'd save 4 million in cap space with that trade

Trading Ertz would open $4MM in cap space for the Eagles, but the acquiring team would be on the hook for a cap hit of $8.25MM. Nelson has a cap hit of $14.3MM, cutting or trading him would free up $8.25MM in cap space while incurring a dead money hit of $6.17MM.

Gotcha. So that would be the same net cap-wise as cutting him

[Dickie Dunn]

That trade ignores the continued reality of the Steelers cap situation. Off season salary figure is calculate using the Top 51 salaries of their current 62 contracted players. Come Week 1 of the season, Top 51 goes away and all contracts are counted against the cap. The Steelers Top 51 currently leaves them with $2.5MM in cap space according to Spotrac. Add in the 12 other scrub contracts they have signed and that number becomes $3.5MM over the cap, with about an estimated $8MM in draft pick cap hit left to absorb. They're trying to trade Nelson because they need the cap space, which would immediately disappear with Ertz coming the other way.

Ertz cap hit is 4mm. They'd save 4 million in cap space with that trade

Trading Ertz would open $4MM in cap space for the Eagles, but the acquiring team would be on the hook for a cap hit of $8.25MM. Nelson has a cap hit of $14.3MM, cutting or trading him would free up $8.25MM in cap space while incurring a dead money hit of $6.17MM.

Gotcha. So that would be the same net cap-wise as cutting him

I updated my original post too late, but yes for the Steelers it would be a wash. For the Eagles they would be costing themselves an extra $3.6MM.

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

Nelson contract terminated

[willeyeam]

Well well well

[Troy Loney]

So now they can sign their draft picks?

[Morkle]

Was just about to ask, how much cap space is needed for picks if they signed 1-7?

[Dickie Dunn]

Current projection is $7.9MM. Towards the bottom of the team profile.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap/

[Morkle]

So Nelson would have been cut either way, as they needed the cap?

[Dickie Dunn]

Realistically, they still need more space. That number is based off the Top 51 contracts. Active roster is 53, so there goes at least $1.3MM if it’s two minimum wage guys. Typically go into camp with 90 guys. Every one of those scrubs has a dead money hit once they are cut. Practice squad counts against the cap. Etc etc.

[willeyeam]

Not sure on the accuracy or chances of these happening, but here's this

[faftorial]

Is the PITT contingent here upset that Conner is leaving?

[willeyeam]

I will withhold comment until that officially happens

[Morkle]

Is the PITT contingent here upset that Conner is leaving?

Nope.

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/24/nfl-chas ... -on-video/
NFL’S CHASE CLAYPOOL
IN BAR FIGHT CAUGHT ON VIDEO

Sources tell us there was an issue involving someone throwing dollar bills at a woman inside the bar, which sparked an argument … and eventually, things moved outside.

We’re told Chase was NOT an instigator -- but as you can see in the video, things started to get out of control and Chase jumped into the action to help out one of his buddies.

At one point, the 6’4”, 238-pound NFL star gets in the middle of the action -- where one of the combatants was wrestling on the ground -- and Claypool delivers a swift kick to the face

[willeyeam]

Jfc