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Postby shmenguin » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:26 pm

New Jersey was supposed to legalize like a year ago.

They’re now quibbling on how they can gouge consumers most effectively and sustainably. There’s a giant company who operates in many states and currently has one of the medical places. They charge 2X black market prices to largely poor and elderly people who have no option to go somewhere else.

Things are complicated in the ole garden state.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:55 pm

On that front I highly recommend Murder Mountain on Netflix which takes in the California legalization.

Shockingly the high taxes and massive regulation knocks out the small farmers and enables the cops and agribusiness to take over.

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Postby shmenguin » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:13 pm

I don’t weep for the small farmers. It is really sad that they won’t be able to continue their businesses the same way. In an industry where you are inhaling their product into your lungs, over regulation is warranted. Consumers want and deserve lab grade material in 2019. The boutique farms produce high quality but so do countless others. I’m a man of the people. This industry should be corralled, however. The over taxation is the only issue. But not out west.

California is also not expensive or particularly unwieldy compared to other states.

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Postby Willie Kool » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:31 pm

Should be just state sales tax. If it's any higher, there should be a corresponding beer tax.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:59 pm

Should be just state sales tax. If it's any higher, there should be a corresponding beer tax.
Agreed. The alcohol/cannabis blatant hypocrisy is incredible to me. At least i could understand the total prohibition point of view, even if i vehemently disagree. Alcohol has destroyed/ended millions more lives than weed ever has.

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Postby Factorial » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:10 pm

Should be just state sales tax. If it's any higher, there should be a corresponding beer tax.
Doesn't beer currently have a state sales tax in PA?

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Postby shmenguin » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:14 pm

I think allowing people to grow their own is essential. I also know that untaxed unregulated weed would sell for literally a couple bucks an ounce. I have no issues with imposing a vice tax like this in its infancy. It is not a toxic substance. But it is one that has no agreed upon best practice for all of its forms or formal guidance for initial use. Eventually once we’re acclimated, let er rip. I’m ok going slow.

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Postby Factorial » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:15 pm

I think allowing people to grow their own is essential. I also know that untaxed unregulated weed would sell for literally a couple bucks an ounce. I have no issues with imposing a vice tax like this in its infancy. It is not a toxic substance. But it is one that has no agreed upon best practice for all of its forms or formal guidance for initial use. Eventually once we’re acclimated, let er rip. I’m ok going slow.
I'm looking forward to living somewhere that I can legally grow. That would be a fun hobby.

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Postby Willie Kool » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:36 pm

Should be just state sales tax. If it's any higher, there should be a corresponding beer tax.
Doesn't beer currently have a state sales tax in PA?
Yes, but no additional 'sin' tax like they're proposing for cannabis, or like liquor currently does.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:02 pm

Martha Stewart officially getting into marijuana business
https://t.co/YmMy62if8i

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Postby shmenguin » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:37 pm

Some friends of ours recently got divorced. The wife just posted a plea on Facebook to New Jersey parents to stop legalization of this gateway drug. Her ex husband and children are people of color.

Guess I know who’s winning the custody battle of all their common friends.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:37 pm

Article makes it seem like a good plan.

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Postby eddy » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:43 pm

Article makes it seem like a good plan.
Yes it does, but PA Republicans.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:02 pm

I don't expect it to pass the first time anyway.

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Postby shmenguin » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:15 pm

That isn’t going to be its final form. Allowing home grow is going to get wiped out.

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Postby LITT » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:16 pm

Yes

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Postby shmenguin » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:24 pm

The way this will work is that they will establish a system based on politically driven hand outs to newly licensed businesses. It will take a year + to iron out a plan that will make the right people wealthy. Eventually, you’ll get a highly regulated industry with token measures in place that don’t actually address anything, but they will make the 60+ people sleep better. And with prices higher than the black market, as well as a limited set of dispensaries and poor product selection for a while.

The east has no playbook for this.

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Postby eddy » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:29 pm

The way this will work is that they will establish a system based on politically driven hand outs to newly licensed businesses. It will take a year + to iron out a plan that will make the right people wealthy. Eventually, you’ll get a highly regulated industry with token measures in place that don’t actually address anything, but they will make the 60+ people sleep better. And with prices higher than the black market, as well as a limited set of dispensaries and poor product selection for a while.

The east has no playbook for this.
Unfortunately I agree with that.

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Postby Willie Kool » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:51 pm

The east has no playbook for this.
Maybe not, but we do have a hell of a quarterback here in Pa with Fetterman...

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:47 am

“Marijuana has become the new ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’” Companies are dropping marijuana from their screening tests or raising the threshold for failure
https://t.co/60BfaqJzQX

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Postby eddy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:51 am

NJ votes to legalize today

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:57 am

NJ votes to legalize today
As I was driving back from NYC on the NJT, I noticed a couple of pro-cannabis billboards along the way, both of which highlighting the decrease in opioid prescriptions after legalizing.

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Postby eddy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:59 am

NJ votes to legalize today
As I was driving back from NYC on the NJT, I noticed a couple of pro-cannabis billboards along the way, both of which highlighting the decrease in opioid prescriptions after legalizing.
:thumb: I have family that went this route based on a doctor recommendation in PA and so far so good.

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