Fifth Avenue Forum

I would pay $100 for the vaccine right now.

I'll get you Faftorial's dose for $50.

One thing I've noticed is that my arm is sore (very minor). I can't even remember the last time I had a sore arm after a flu injection.

Scientists in Brazil have downgraded the efficacy of a Chinese coronavirus vaccine that they hailed as a major triumph last week, diminishing hopes for a shot that could be quickly produced and easily distributed to help the developing world.

Officials at the Butantan Institute in São Paulo said on Tuesday that a trial conducted in Brazil showed that the CoronaVac vaccine, made by the Beijing-based company Sinovac, had an efficacy rate just over 50 percent. That rate, slightly above the benchmark that the World Health Organization has said would make a vaccine effective for general use, was far below the 78 percent level announced last week.

The implications could be significant for a vaccine that is crucial to China’s global health diplomacy. At least 10 countries have ordered more than 380 million doses of CoronaVac, though regulatory agencies have yet to fully approve it.

One thing I've noticed is that my arm is sore (very minor). I can't even remember the last time I had a sore arm after a flu injection.

The annoyance for me is centered on the number of high priority front-line people who are simply opting out altogether. Never saw that coming tbh and it's super maddening.

For months we've heard horror stories about the hellscape these people face every day, how they have to isolate from their families, and then for any significant chunk of them to respond to the opportunity to be vaccinated with 'lol' is just........... ugh.

The Chinese "CoronaVac" vaccine doesn't look to be all that effective:

Disappointing Chinese Vaccine Results Pose Setback for Developing World
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/busi ... novac.html

Scientists in Brazil have downgraded the efficacy of a Chinese coronavirus vaccine that they hailed as a major triumph last week, diminishing hopes for a shot that could be quickly produced and easily distributed to help the developing world.

Officials at the Butantan Institute in São Paulo said on Tuesday that a trial conducted in Brazil showed that the CoronaVac vaccine, made by the Beijing-based company Sinovac, had an efficacy rate just over 50 percent. That rate, slightly above the benchmark that the World Health Organization has said would make a vaccine effective for general use, was far below the 78 percent level announced last week.

The implications could be significant for a vaccine that is crucial to China’s global health diplomacy. At least 10 countries have ordered more than 380 million doses of CoronaVac, though regulatory agencies have yet to fully approve it.

Really unfortunate news, if the numbers are accurate.

Except the virus they made.

Covid currently running through my wife’s family in Mexico. One family member in the hospital and others showing symptoms, all of whom either live with or help take care of my wife’s 85 year old grandmother. Not a good situation.

Just got my second vaccine

How you doing

Most of the nurses in my wife's company, which provides in-home services to the elderly, are declining it. Some because they are younger and have some concerns over possible fertility effects, which I get, although there's conflicting evidence about it. Others fall in the "lol" tinfoil hat group.

My wife's a Social Worker and will get it first chance she can.

pifzer or moderna