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Postby NTP66 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:10 am

Already seeing it.

"See? Biden got covid even after having 3 shots!"

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Postby nocera » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:12 am

Everybody here knows how stupid that is but we really do need the updated vaccines. One of the selling points of mRNA vaccines was how quickly they could be altered to match the current strain. So why are we still using a vaccine based on the original strain from two years ago that doesn't exist anymore?

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Postby CBear3 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:25 am

RE: Paxlovid
Yep, extends the time you're positive or a risk to others, but the severity is much less.
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Postby MR25 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:25 am

The FDA/CDC have essentially washed their hands of the pandemic and are dragging their feet on getting the new stuff approved because they'd rather pretend it's over than acknowledge that the virus continues to mutate.

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Postby King Colby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:58 pm

Based on what...?

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Postby MR25 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:06 pm

Virtual inaction post-omicron wave? Essentially forgoing actual mitigation of spread, which is increasing mutation chances?

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Postby count2infinity » Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:08 pm

Now hold on just a darn second… they put out a new map every so often.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:20 pm

Virtual inaction post-omicron wave? Essentially forgoing actual mitigation of spread, which is increasing mutation chances?
Not sure there's anything to do anymore though?

These new mutations get more mild each time. Granted, it's 2+ years later, but the initial arguments for inaction are now valid.

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Postby nocera » Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:34 pm

Source of the post These new mutations get more mild each time.
So far. They could approve boosters for 50 and under. More importantly, they could move to get the updated omicron specifics boosters available faster so we could have something that actually prevents infection again.

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Postby MR25 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:40 pm

Virtual inaction post-omicron wave? Essentially forgoing actual mitigation of spread, which is increasing mutation chances?
Not sure there's anything to do anymore though?

These new mutations get more mild each time. Granted, it's 2+ years later, but the initial arguments for inaction are now valid.

Mild and consistent reinfections still can cause long COVID problems.

It would be in the best interest to speed up the vax process but there seems to be a general ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ from the people tasked with making sure that happens.

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Postby Morkle » Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:03 pm

Is it because long COVID problems are even more random than serious infections? I know one person out of 20 who has long COVID symptoms and they're pretty healthy considering the rest.

Like what do you do to prepare for long COVID symptoms when the vaccines themselves are in place to reduce the harshness of the infection?

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:06 pm

These new mutations get more mild each time. Granted, it's 2+ years later, but the initial arguments for inaction are now valid.
The county health board here just had an announcement that this current wave (which is now summer 2021 level in terms of case count and hospitalizations) is just different. People at this stage genuinely are going to the hospital with COVID not because of it. They're not going to ICUs with pneumonia and getting intubated. After 2 1/2 years, it finally has become just like a bad cold.

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Postby King Colby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:19 pm



Good thing we hoarded them

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:21 pm

Let’s try not to jinx it, tiffy.

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Postby Nuge » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:15 pm



Good thing we hoarded them
Should’ve given them to people under 50 that wanted them before they expired.

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Postby King Colby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:17 pm

Or like, literally any other country

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Postby faftorial » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:19 pm


Should’ve given them to people under 50 that wanted them before they expired.
This is since they became available.

Across Pennsylvania, nearly 2.2 million vaccines have been discarded since they became available in late 2020.
The bigger story is 30% of PA is unvaxxed.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:50 pm

Let’s try not to jinx it, tiffy.
There was actually a discussion about this within the USC health system. That they should change their reporting definitions because the numbers are showing just astronomic infection levels that are not in any way accurately reflecting the level of actual medical risk right now. (I might be overstating the point that was being made, but that's the gist of it)

I'm still masking up indoors in public places (ever where proof of vax is required), but it's still something to keep an eye on.

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Postby King Colby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:17 pm

I think I heard on the news at 3am or so while feeding my baby that reported covid case counts are now 10-15x lower than actual

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Postby nocera » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:25 pm

I think I heard on the news at 3am or so while feeding my baby that reported covid case counts are now 10-15x lower than actual
With the ease of at home testing that makes a lot of sense. I know we didn’t report our at home results to the county.

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Postby meow » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:27 pm

Or like, literally any other country
Moving a vaccine from it’s initial assigned location to a second location is a no-no. Too many variables and increase probability in a mishandle.

So the correct answer is to allow anyone with a pulse to get a shot

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Postby LeopardLetang » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:32 pm

A no-no because it would be bad for insurance reasons? Would it be predicted like under 10% may not be effective because of mishandling but 90% would get to people that otherwise wouldn't get them and maybe .001% would have an issue they could sue for? I have no clue just wondering if that's the idea

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Postby King Colby » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:38 pm

Or like, literally any other country
Moving a vaccine from it’s initial assigned location to a second location is a no-no. Too many variables and increase probability in a mishandle.

So the correct answer is to allow anyone with a pulse to get a shot
Isn't this ultimately what they did do? Outside of this 4th and likely useless shot at least

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:15 pm


The Biden administration is preparing a sweeping initiative to develop a next generation of Covid-19 immunizations that would thwart future coronavirus variants and dramatically reduce rates of coronavirus infection or transmission, building on current shots whose impact has been mainly to prevent serious illness and death, the White House told STAT.

To kick off the effort, the White House is gathering key federal officials, top scientists, and pharmaceutical executives including representatives of Pfizer and Moderna for a Tuesday “summit” to discuss the new technologies and lay out a road map for developing them.

“These are vaccines that are going to be far more durable, that are going to provide far longer-lasting protection, no matter what the virus does or how it evolves,” Ashish Jha, the White House Covid-19 response coordinator, said in an interview. “If we can drive down infections by 90% … Covid really begins to fade into the background, and becomes just one more respiratory illness that we have to deal with.”

Jha acknowledged that such a campaign would likely require more money from Congress, though he declined to provide a specific estimate.

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Postby faftorial » Mon Jul 25, 2022 3:07 pm

Prediction: The GOP won't want to fund the development of anymore covid vaccines.

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