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Postby mikey » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:56 am

I have never lost taste/smell in my life...

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:57 am

Hopefully I can get pretty high on the list for the vaccine. I'm 71 with COPD and heart disease and have no problem getting it.
Not sure about PA, but in NC you’d be considered in a “priority population” and most likely in phase 1. If not, very early in phase two.
How does one prove they should be in the priority population? Doctor's note?
Are you old? You're in.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:57 am

I have never lost taste/smell in my life...
Same.

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Postby Faftorial » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:57 am

Hopefully I can get pretty high on the list for the vaccine. I'm 71 with COPD and heart disease and have no problem getting it.
Not sure about PA, but in NC you’d be considered in a “priority population” and most likely in phase 1. If not, very early in phase two.
How does one prove they should be in the priority population? Doctor's note?
Are you old? You're in.
Not old but have heart failure.

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Postby King Colby » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:58 am

at least until we get some reasonable certainty that the vaccine is safe.
What would you need to pass the threshold of unknown if safe to safe?
That is a gr8 question during a time when there are many gr8 questions with no real answers. I don't know when. Probably a combination of a few things, maybe figuring out a. does the vaccine work well b. are there side effects c. is it readily available for schmucks like myself
If it helps, the answers to A and B are both yes. C is currently a no.
Quoting this one because I think the trials have proven A to be true and B to be "yes but not prohibitive". I think there needs to be trust in modern medicine but CBear made a good point a couple weeks ago that a larger and more widespread data analysis would make many people feel more comfortable. I'm honestly kind of shocked to hear someone would prefer the virus to the vaccine at this point.

That said, can you explain why there might be more risk in long term effects from an mRNA virus versus different RNA ones like the flu? Or is the answer simply "because this is the first one"? Like, is there a scientific reason that would make one consider that a reasonable risk?

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:59 am

Hopefully I can get pretty high on the list for the vaccine. I'm 71 with COPD and heart disease and have no problem getting it.
Not sure about PA, but in NC you’d be considered in a “priority population” and most likely in phase 1. If not, very early in phase two.
How does one prove they should be in the priority population? Doctor's note?
Are you old? You're in.
Not old but have heart failure.
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/corona ... -shot.html
PHASE 1: When the first vaccines are available

Who gets it: Initially, medical personnel working with COVID-19 patients or those in high-risk environments (like emergency rooms or nursing homes), along with residents of long-term care facilities. When more becomes available, the vaccine will be opened up to more health care workers; first-responders; workers in “core societal functions” like manufacturing, energy, agriculture, transportation and teachers; residents 65 and older; and high-risk populations, like people with serious conditions that compromise their immune systems.
PHASE 2: When supply starts to meet demand

Who gets it: Any remaining health care workers; “critical” workers, like restaurant staff, government, school administrators and support staff; people with higher-risk conditions, like pregnant moms, people with asthma or high blood pressure; residents aged 40 to 64; people in congregate settings, like college dorms, military barracks or boarding schools.
PHASE 3: Ample supply and slowing demand

Who gets it: Everyone not previously vaccinated.

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Postby mikey » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:06 am

Hmm, looks like I may qualify for phase 1...but I think I'm good to wait...

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:07 am

Hmm, looks like I may qualify for phase 1...but I think I'm good to wait...
Chlamydia isn't on the approved 'serious conditions that compromise their immune systems' list...

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:10 am

My best friend is a pediatric OR nurse in Kansas City. Their staff was given notice that they'll be in the first round of vaccinations, but they'd be allowed to opt-out and continue treating patients. :|

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Postby nocera » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:10 am

35.3% positive rate in Allegheny County today.

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Postby count2infinity » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:17 am


That said, can you explain why there might be more risk in long term effects from an mRNA virus versus different RNA ones like the flu? Or is the answer simply "because this is the first one"? Like, is there a scientific reason that would make one consider that a reasonable risk?
Flu vaccines are not RNA. They are DNA.

DNA vaccine wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_immunization
RNA vaccine wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

Doesn't seem like there is more long term risk from RNA vs DNA vaccines.

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Postby willeyeam » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:22 am

I have never lost taste/smell in my life...
Can't lose taste if you never had any

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Postby blackjack68 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:26 am

Mikey taking a beating ITT

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:29 am

There was no way I thought I'd be in Phase 1, most likely the 2nd to last phase. But working in the transportation industry bumps me up to the top of the list, above certain health care workers? Seems dumb to me. I can easily do my job at home, so can wait till the end to get the shot.

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:31 am

Looks like my wife would be Phase 1 and I'd be Phase 2. I'm fine letting some folks ahead of me though.

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Postby meow » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:31 am

Hopefully I can get pretty high on the list for the vaccine. I'm 71 with COPD and heart disease and have no problem getting it.
Not sure about PA, but in NC you’d be considered in a “priority population” and most likely in phase 1. If not, very early in phase two.
How does one prove they should be in the priority population? Doctor's note?
This is still being worked on. There are a lot of scenarios at play. Obviously

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Postby meow » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:32 am

Hmm, looks like I may qualify for phase 1...but I think I'm good to wait...
Having your IQ and shoe size as the same number doesn’t qualify you. Back of the line.

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Postby Morkle » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:34 am

looks like I'm phase 3 and have to survive a year.

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Postby meow » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:36 am

looks like I'm phase 3 and have to survive a year.
It’s like being in the ER. If you keeping getting skipped in line, you’ll be fine.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:37 am


That said, can you explain why there might be more risk in long term effects from an mRNA virus versus different RNA ones like the flu? Or is the answer simply "because this is the first one"? Like, is there a scientific reason that would make one consider that a reasonable risk?
Flu vaccines are not RNA. They are DNA.

DNA vaccine wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_immunization
RNA vaccine wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

Doesn't seem like there is more long term risk from RNA vs DNA vaccines.
mRNA vax can trigger an inflammatory response that poses elevated risks to people (like Mrs Tif and Mama Tif) who have autoimmune disease(s) going into vaccination. Basically, whatever side effects a regular person might experience, they can be multiplied several-fold in severity for autoimmune patients. I forget if it's the Moderna or Pfizer trial, but they reported much higher instances of people with 'severe' short-term side-effects (which iirc meant something that inhibited normal daily function). So the potential problem is more one of perception than of actual long-term risk.

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Postby Morkle » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:38 am

Right, I'm totally content minding my ps and qs waiting. I would just hope I'm not going to get it and die from something I had no idea about.

But that's not like that couldn't happen right now, without COVID either.

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Postby count2infinity » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:41 am

My wife would likely be Phase 1. I'm either Phase 1 or Phase 2, depending on whether my company qualifies as "core societal functions".

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Postby meow » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:42 am

Grab some popcorn for when the fact that people in prison get it before healthy people becomes public.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:47 pm

My best friend is a pediatric OR nurse in Kansas City. Their staff was given notice that they'll be in the first round of vaccinations, but they'd be allowed to opt-out and continue treating patients. :|
That's how it's starting where I work, as well. Front line workers can opt-out. I imagine this changes sometime next year, and the vaccine becomes mandatory just like the flu shot, even though this isn't the same god damn thing as the flu and I shouldn't have to write it out.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:06 pm

Grab some popcorn for when the fact that people in prison get it before healthy people becomes public.
are you implying that all people in prisons are unhealthy people?

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