COVID-19

[PFiDC]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I love the optimism but question the rationale. What part of the last 6 months makes you think ANY vaccine that is touted as "ready" would be just fine and free of issues?

As has been said before, the quickest vaccine ever so far is 4 years. Even with the entire planet working on it 6 months would be one of the greatest accomplishments in human history.

[offsides]

Apparently China doesn't need mass vaccinations. They beat it.

"There isn't currently a need for mass vaccination at this stage"
On Saturday, China's National Health Commission only recorded 10 new symptomatic confirmed cases, all imported from overseas. It also reported 70 new asymptomatic cases, which are counted separately, also all imported.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/asia/chi ... index.html

[RonnieFranchise]

I was at an event this weekend where I had not seen anyone (I was not related to) for 25-30 years. It was hard because in addition to that much time, everyone had a mask on- so I’m sure I missed out on some people I’d have liked to have spoken with.

[shoeshine boy]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I think Trump would encourage them to but so far, it looks like Big Pharma has morals (and brains) after all.

[King Colby]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I think Trump would encourage them to but so far, it looks like Big Pharma has morals (and brains) after all.

Theyre robbers, not killers.

[count2infinity]

Much like B Rabbit in 8 mile... you only get one shot. If you mess it up, you're done. That's why Big Pharma, even if they get the authority to skirt regulations, will not move forward until the vaccine is sound. You don't want your company name linked with a vaccine failure for the biggest pandemic in a century.

[DigitalGypsy66]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I think Trump would encourage them to but so far, it looks like Big Pharma has morals (and brains) after all.

Theyre robbers, not killers.

They are publicly traded, so they are probably concerned about stock price should their vaccine start killing people.

[tifosi77]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I think Trump would encourage them to but so far, it looks like Big Pharma has morals (and brains) after all.

Several pharma CEOs came out publicly to affirm that they would not submit a vax for approval unless it was safe and effective. They aren't cash-grabbing it. (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the first to market Jonas Salk'd the thing)

[pens9192]

Long MRNA

[NTP66]

Pitt School of Medicine researchers discovered the smallest biological molecule to date that “completely and specifically” neutralizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus, according to a report published Monday in the journal Cell.

The scientists reported that a tiny antibody component — 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody — can be used to create a therapeutic and preventative drug called Ab8 and found it to be “highly effective” in preventing the SARS-CoV-2 in mice and hamsters.

The molecule’s tiny size could be advantageous for its movement through the body’s tissues to neutralize the virus and for administering the drug — for example, through inhalation, according to the university.

#H2Pitt

[count2infinity]

Remember like a month into this when Pitt came out and said they had a vaccine and it would be administered via some sort of skin patch? What happened to that? Or is this that as well?

[NTP66]

Somebody asked that a few weeks ago, and I couldn’t find a follow up to it.

[CBear3]

Pitt School of Medicine researchers discovered the smallest biological molecule to date that “completely and specifically” neutralizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus, according to a report published Monday in the journal Cell.

The scientists reported that a tiny antibody component — 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody — can be used to create a therapeutic and preventative drug called Ab8 and found it to be “highly effective” in preventing the SARS-CoV-2 in mice and hamsters.

The molecule’s tiny size could be advantageous for its movement through the body’s tissues to neutralize the virus and for administering the drug — for example, through inhalation, according to the university.

#H2Pitt

Pitt named the drug AB8(4)?

[RonnieFranchise]

Remember like a month into this when Pitt came out and said they had a vaccine and it would be administered via some sort of skin patch? What happened to that? Or is this that as well?

They lost it like a 5 star recruit

[NTP66]

Pitt School of Medicine researchers discovered the smallest biological molecule to date that “completely and specifically” neutralizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus, according to a report published Monday in the journal Cell.

The scientists reported that a tiny antibody component — 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody — can be used to create a therapeutic and preventative drug called Ab8 and found it to be “highly effective” in preventing the SARS-CoV-2 in mice and hamsters.

The molecule’s tiny size could be advantageous for its movement through the body’s tissues to neutralize the virus and for administering the drug — for example, through inhalation, according to the university.

#H2Pitt

Pitt named the drug AB8(4)?

How dare you

[Beveridge]

Didn't one of the researchers get killed or something like 2 weeks after that announcement?

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I think Trump would encourage them to but so far, it looks like Big Pharma has morals (and brains) after all.

Several pharma CEOs came out publicly to affirm that they would not submit a vax for approval unless it was safe and effective. They aren't cash-grabbing it. (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the first to market Jonas Salk'd the thing)

So let me get this straight, we are going to point at big pharma, an industry directly responsible for close to 400,000 overdose deaths, and say "yes, these are the guys that care about the best interests of the american people"

[mikey]

Can non-OTC drugs be exclusively attributed to Big Pharma...

(Which, of course, isn't to say they're off the hook)

[robbiestoupe]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I love the optimism but question the rationale. What part of the last 6 months makes you think ANY vaccine that is touted as "ready" would be just fine and free of issues?

As has been said before, the quickest vaccine ever so far is 4 years. Even with the entire planet working on it 6 months would be one of the greatest accomplishments in human history.

From what I understand, the vaccine from Oxford has been in development for years. They started it as a vaccine for MERS but were able to quickly tweak a couple things due to the virus similarities and boom, were off to the races.

[obhave]

Press about the oxford vaccine is interesting to me. In the European press, I've seen the company/partner state 2022 for the vaccine. In the American press, they state some batches could be ready end of 2020.

There are a few things that could account for it: 1) difference in regulations or ability for emergency approval or 2) maybe the 2022 thing is for wide spread distribution.

If the medical community deems something safe, I'm going with it. I just find the difference in press interesting

[tifosi77]

There is going to be controversy no matter what. And if Trump touts it, forget about it.

Theyre not going to give you an unsafe vaccine. They just aren't. Thinking otherwise is Bill Gates microchip level lunacy.

I think Trump would encourage them to but so far, it looks like Big Pharma has morals (and brains) after all.

Several pharma CEOs came out publicly to affirm that they would not submit a vax for approval unless it was safe and effective. They aren't cash-grabbing it. (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the first to market Jonas Salk'd the thing)

So let me get this straight, we are going to point at big pharma, an industry directly responsible for close to 400,000 overdose deaths, and say "yes, these are the guys that care about the best interests of the american people"

You're painting with a broad brush here. That's like not trusting Chevy because VW cheated their EPA test. Some of these companies don't even trade in that space.

Also the point is more about having to come out publicly to assure people that any vax that's developed won't be deployed in the face of political pressure.

[NTP66]

Source of the post There are a few things that could account for it: 1) difference in regulations or ability for emergency approval or 2) maybe the 2022 thing is for wide spread distribution.

The latter could very well be true, though there was an article yesterday from some CEO in India stating that it wouldn't be until 2024 that we'd have worldwide vaccinations complete.

[robbiestoupe]

Source of the post There are a few things that could account for it: 1) difference in regulations or ability for emergency approval or 2) maybe the 2022 thing is for wide spread distribution.

The latter could very well be true, though there was an article yesterday from some CEO in India stating that it wouldn't be until 2024 that we'd have worldwide vaccinations complete.

It could also be that the US dumped half a billion dollars into the development of the Oxford vaccine

[obhave]

Source of the post There are a few things that could account for it: 1) difference in regulations or ability for emergency approval or 2) maybe the 2022 thing is for wide spread distribution.

The latter could very well be true, though there was an article yesterday from some CEO in India stating that it wouldn't be until 2024 that we'd have worldwide vaccinations complete.

It could also be that the US dumped half a billion dollars into the development of the Oxford vaccine

So we get first dibs?

[NTP66]

Source of the post There are a few things that could account for it: 1) difference in regulations or ability for emergency approval or 2) maybe the 2022 thing is for wide spread distribution.

The latter could very well be true, though there was an article yesterday from some CEO in India stating that it wouldn't be until 2024 that we'd have worldwide vaccinations complete.

It could also be that the US dumped half a billion dollars into the development of the Oxford vaccine

So we get first dibs?

If by 'we' you mean congress and company, yes.