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Postby grunthy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm


Yet every place that gets around that immunity level starts to fall, with all those different levels of lockdown or open, different levels of personal responsibility, and etc.
I think we just see this differently, and a difference that might not actually have a substantive difference. I think regardless of region, there are populations at risk and those that aren't. I think you know first hand, where you are, that there are folks taking precautions, working remotely and being capable of being safe from infection. That behavior is prevalent enough to effectively curtail the spread of the virus by keeping people safe from exposure. I think this puts a natural ceiling on the virus' ability to spread throughout the population. Whether or not that confers actual herd immunity seems unlikely to me. But perhaps, by exposing that other class of people and allowing them to serve as the guinea pigs and strip enough potential carriers out of population, perhaps that reducing the infections enough to effectively depress the virus' impact.
It is slowly becoming more mainstream that infection induced herd immunity could be far less than vaccine induced herd immunity.

Even if that isn’t true.

Say it is 50-50 on whether you develop antibodies or just T-cell immunity. The USA is around 15% infection right now based on one of the most accurate, if not the most, modelers.

That would put us somewhere up to 30% infection in the USA. That would mean we are halfway there. I just don’t believe there is a way for this virus to explode like it did in the USA again. It hasn’t been mutating like the flu does.

Not even accounting for studies that say up to 40% of people could have some form of protection from other coronavirus infections.

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Postby Shyster » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:18 pm

I could see infection-induced herd immunity requiring a lower number because the "herd" is smaller. Many of us are working from home, barely going out, etc., so those folks aren't nearly as exposed to the virus. The people who cannot avoid the virus or refuse to avoid the virus are the ones most likely to get the virus, and that's a smaller pool than the population as a whole.

The problem is that the pool of people who are staying home would be vulnerable to infection once they leave home. So I think we could see another "wave" based on that.

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Postby grunthy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:23 pm

I could see infection-induced herd immunity requiring a lower number because the "herd" is smaller. Many of us are working from home, barely going out, etc., so those folks aren't nearly as exposed to the virus. The people who cannot avoid the virus or refuse to avoid the virus are the ones most likely to get the virus, and that's a smaller pool than the population as a whole.

The problem is that the pool of people who are staying home would be vulnerable to infection once they leave home. So I think we could see another "wave" based on that.
It’s also smaller because people for the most part aren’t random in socialization circles (even in the best times).

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Postby MWB » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:59 am

Source of the post I think the virus might be able to transmit more easily outside when it's cold.
Plus a lot of the activities that have been happening outdoors (sports, eating, gatherings) will be moved inside. And we already know that the virus transmits much more effectively indoors.
Most activities in the south right now, I can guarantee, are being done indoors. It is still 95 and above. No one is staying outside that long.
Plenty of stuff still going on outside, especially sports, obviously. Plenty of outdoor seating at restaurants as well. Most people in this area seem to be avoiding any type of large indoor gathering still.

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Postby NTP66 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:08 am

I don’t know how this is even possible, but I’ve lost 20 lbs. since covid started. There’s your positive news for the weekend.

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Postby CBear3 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:29 pm

I don’t know how this is even possible, but I’ve lost 20 lbs. since covid started. There’s your positive news for the weekend.
I lost ten in the two months I was WFH, put it all back on and a couple more in the first 3 months back in the office

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Postby NTP66 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:49 pm

I don’t know how this is even possible, but I’ve lost 20 lbs. since covid started. There’s your positive news for the weekend.
I lost ten in the two months I was WFH, put it all back on and a couple more in the first 3 months back in the office
“Why can’t you come back to the office?”

My figure, damnit!

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:14 pm

Honestly I go out to lunch a lot at the office and just make sandwiches at home. I haven't weighed myself because I'm usually hovering around the same weight but I'm probably a little more svelte working at home

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Postby NTP66 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:25 pm

Honestly I go out to lunch a lot at the office and just make sandwiches at home.
That’s probably mostly why I’ve lost weight. That said, I don’t do as much walking as I had when I went into the office. Perhaps my bike rides with my daughter burn more calories than I assumed.

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Postby MR25 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:30 pm

I think I've lost around 6 lbs. Likely attributable to losing muscle rather than any eating habits (though I'm definitely eating less than I would be if I were in office).

I'm guessing the lack of exercise/calorie burning is being offset by not eating as much.

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Postby Shyster » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:38 pm

I don’t know how this is even possible, but I’ve lost 20 lbs. since covid started. There’s your positive news for the weekend.
:thumb:

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:20 pm

Went for a physical a few weeks ago, Dr. said on average people he has seen since they re-opened for general visits have gained 15 lbs.

I had only gained 9. Go me. But I was a fatass to begin with.

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Postby grunthy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:38 pm



So it is possible up to 80% of the population might not be able to get severe symptoms.

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Postby eddy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:00 pm

Woke to a 20 foot bonfire and around 30 kids partying last night around 1am. School starts Monday. Should go pretty smoothly.

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Postby King Colby » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:08 pm

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Postby faftorial » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:11 pm

eddy lives in Partytown, USA.

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Postby eddy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:31 pm

eddy lives in Partytown, USA.
Borough line ends the block behind my house, then it's all college houses and very much so partytown, usa

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Postby King Colby » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:06 pm

30 people at a bonfire... better get the caskets ordered

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Postby eddy » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:39 am

30 people at a bonfire... better get the caskets ordered
You can say dumb things all you like, but the fact that we've had to quarantine 2 teams a week before school starts and the positive cases traced back to partying is completely ridiculous at this point. When school shuts down in a few weeks, I'm probably on the next round of layoffs. Large gatherings like this shouldn't be happening now.

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Postby King Colby » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:20 am

30 people at a bonfire... better get the caskets ordered
You can say dumb things all you like, but the fact that we've had to quarantine 2 teams a week before school starts and the positive cases traced back to partying is completely ridiculous at this point. When school shuts down in a few weeks, I'm probably on the next round of layoffs. Large gatherings like this shouldn't be happening now.
I know the situation and I know partying is going to cause issues. But 30 people at a bonfire is on the more responsible side of college kid gatherings. By a lot.

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Postby eddy » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:38 am

30 people at a bonfire... better get the caskets ordered
You can say dumb things all you like, but the fact that we've had to quarantine 2 teams a week before school starts and the positive cases traced back to partying is completely ridiculous at this point. When school shuts down in a few weeks, I'm probably on the next round of layoffs. Large gatherings like this shouldn't be happening now.
I know the situation and I know partying is going to cause issues. But 30 people at a bonfire is on the more responsible side of college kid gatherings. By a lot.
To be fair, I could only see half the fire and counted 32. University guidelines are asking to keep it under 10. Two cases came back from parties of around 15. We all know they are going to do it, it's just frustrating.

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Postby shoeshine boy » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:50 am

I don’t know how this is even possible, but I’ve lost 20 lbs. since covid started. There’s your positive news for the weekend.
I've dropped 16. I think it's mostly due to not having to deal with "hey! there's doughnuts in the break room!" more than anything else.
I have one friend that's dropped 90 since March. he uses his former commute time to do 10k on his treadmill every day. he also made a lot of drastic food changes. no soda, no sugars, minimal carbs. I'll be curious to see where he goes from here.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:04 pm

No sugar and minimal carbs? I’d rather drink covid-19.

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