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Postby faftorial » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:04 pm

I'd love to have the upvote/downvote feature. c2i shot that suggestion down.

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Postby genoscoif » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:37 pm

Again, there's no right answer. Stop acting like there is one.
There are obvious drawbacks to every choice and there's not enough information to determine which is the least of evils.

Get out of your trenches.
If we had an upvote/downvote system in the politics thread, after enough down votes, that post is replaced with this and you get PM'd this every hour for the rest of the day...
Yup
This
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Co-signed.

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Postby count2infinity » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:47 pm

I have the right answer.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:33 pm

Again, there's no right answer. Stop acting like there is one.
There are obvious drawbacks to every choice and there's not enough information to determine which is the least of evils.

Get out of your trenches.
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Postby offsides » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:41 pm

Interesting read. What about the kids that don't play organized sports in high school or college. Don't the majority just watch sports? I was just an uncoordinated kid that only played with other neighborhood kids like me in a few sports at our local parks. In college there was no chance to play anything but pick-up games with friends. I don't think I suffered any great damage by being a nerd. Then again, maybe I did and just don't realize it.
Aren’t after school activities of all kinds being discontinued though?
At least right now unorganized activities look OK in my neighborhood. Where I am there is a soccer field, baseball field, basketball court and a couple tennis courts that are pretty busy all day. I live close to an elementary school.

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Postby MR25 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:21 pm

I realize there's potential for both false positives and false negatives, but I hope for the sake of people who would come in contact with him, he would still do a 14 day quarantine in the off chance the 2nd test was incorrect.

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Postby grunthy » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:34 pm

I realize there's potential for both false positives and false negatives, but I hope for the sake of people who would come in contact with him, he would still do a 14 day quarantine in the off chance the 2nd test was incorrect.
I’m sure he will be tested again several times.

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Postby nocera » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:35 pm

Sounds like he just didn’t want to greet Trump.

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Postby MWB » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:54 pm

Again, there's no right answer. Stop acting like there is one.
There are obvious drawbacks to every choice and there's not enough information to determine which is the least of evils.

Get out of your trenches.
Exactly.

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Postby dodint » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:52 am

Hmmm. Suddenly Freddie has nothing to say about getting infected with COVID at church.

Stupid evidence, always getting in the way.

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Postby Beveridge » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:10 am

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Postby grunthy » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:53 am

Hmmm. Suddenly Freddie has nothing to say about getting infected with COVID at church.

Stupid evidence, always getting in the way.
Did Freddie say people can’t get infected in church?

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Postby dodint » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:05 am

He said it's a non-factor and there was little to no evidence that church attendance is responsible for COVID transmission.

The post on the prior page goes against that position.

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Postby grunthy » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:15 am

He said it's a non-factor and there was little to no evidence that church attendance is responsible for COVID transmission.

The post on the prior page goes against that position.
I’m fairly certain he posted actual data points on transmission at church.

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Postby dodint » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:17 am

I'll wait for FR to continue the discussion if he chooses. I don't have a dog in the fight so I'm not going to drill on him if he's not interested.

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Postby grunthy » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:20 am

Then why are you seemingly trying to pick a fight?

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Postby Gaucho » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:21 am

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Postby dodint » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:24 am

Because he scrolled by the case study and didn't acknowledge it despite being the flag bearer of this issue. He's fully aware of it now and can choose to discuss it or ignore it. When it comes up again in a few days/weeks/months I'll point him back to it.

What I'm not going to do is speak for him or give a one-sided speech. I value his thoughts on the issue and have nothing to gain from soap boxing on it. Nor do I have anything to gain from continuing this line of questioning with you. Thank you for your input.

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Postby Tomas » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:41 am

20% Of Harvard’s First-Year Class Has Deferred

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonbus ... 62133314a9

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020 ... t-numbers/

Not surprised by that at all. I think similar last minute drop out rates will be common at many places. Next year will be quite brutal...

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Postby King Colby » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:45 am

He said it's a non-factor and there was little to no evidence that church attendance is responsible for COVID transmission.

The post on the prior page goes against that position.
To be fair, does one story about one guy getting it at a church and spreading it to 91 people really put the nail in the coffin?

I mean, im sure there are a lot of one offs like that for a lot of different places.

Is there more data available indicating widespread issues associated with church attendance? I'm asking.

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Postby CBear3 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:50 am

What's interesting about that church graphic is there are at least 4 instances of minors passing it on to adults if that's a complete contact tracing study.

16->39
15->54
18->44
12->44
16->56

That would point to the ability of Middle and High School students specifically passing the virus along to adults, which their transmission ability/effectiveness has been called into question throughout the pandemic.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:50 am

He said it's a non-factor and there was little to no evidence that church attendance is responsible for COVID transmission.

The post on the prior page goes against that position.


No one ever said church's can't be a place where Covid is spread..

The discussion many moons ago was whether or not they are a significant source of infections, which pointing to what four or five examples out of the 10's of thousands churches in the United States is not an argument for that.
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Postby willeyeam » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:50 am

He said it's a non-factor and there was little to no evidence that church attendance is responsible for COVID transmission.

The post on the prior page goes against that position.
To be fair, does one story about one guy getting it at a church and spreading it to 91 people really put the nail in the coffin?

I mean, im sure there are a lot of one offs like that for a lot of different places.

Is there more data available indicating widespread issues associated with church attendance? I'm asking.
I think it just means it can spread at church just like any other gathering.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:51 am

He said it's a non-factor and there was little to no evidence that church attendance is responsible for COVID transmission.

The post on the prior page goes against that position.
To be fair, does one story about one guy getting it at a church and spreading it to 91 people really put the nail in the coffin?

I mean, im sure there are a lot of one offs like that for a lot of different places.

Is there more data available indicating widespread issues associated with church attendance? I'm asking.
"Nail in the coffin"..... phrasing? I'm sure for some of them, literally yes.

Freddy himself posted a story that linked 650 cases of transmission to in-person church attendance at only 40 locations. (He shared the story and somehow managed to divine the takeaway from that that there were not any other cases of transmission at the other 5,000 churches - his number - in the country, as opposed to recognizing that 650 out of 40 means potentially tens of thousands of transmissions directly related to church, but okay)

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