COVID-19

[grunthy]

Only like 5-7 states are having more than 10 people die a day from covid right now. Arizona, florida, California, and texas are all around 20 a day. Most states are less than 2-3 a day.

I think I have some questions as to the methods different states are using to report fatalities. For one, there is the natural lag in reporting and confirming COVID fatalities. There was some story about PA nursing homes going back and revising their lists to remove patients that "recovered" from COVID. Which seems odd to me, especially considering how COVID impact is linked to other complications like pneumonia and stroke.

I think ultimately, it's unfortunate that the whole "true" impact of COVID has become so politicized that we are debating this. The pandemonium that NYC and Italy went through is not happening anywhere else, and thank heavens for that, and hopefully the new spread has doesn't have similar impact in FL, CA, TX and AZ. So the we're really just arguing a hypothetical.

It is just inaccurate to still believe we are having more than 500 deaths a day from covid still. Not trying to debate that. Could deaths go back up? Yes and they most likely will, but I wouldn't think we will reach what we did before.

[LITT]

also i think 'recovered' comes solely from patients that tested positive that are now testing negative with no regard for whatever underlying health issues will exist indefinitely

[Troy Loney]

also i think 'recovered' comes solely from patients that tested positive that are now testing negative with no regard for whatever underlying health issues will exist indefinitely

This is the story I was thinking of. It seemed sort of preposterous to me, considering the timeline. Like how is someone contracting COVID in Feb/March/April, recovering, then dying of an unrelated reason. Obviously it's possible, but really to an extent that warrants these official revisions?

Edit, forgot the link

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/healt ... 2007030121

[count2infinity]

also i think 'recovered' comes solely from patients that tested positive that are now testing negative with no regard for whatever underlying health issues will exist indefinitely

This is the story I was thinking of. It seemed sort of preposterous to me, considering the timeline. Like how is someone contracting COVID in Feb/March/April, recovering, then dying of an unrelated reason. Obviously it's possible, but really to an extent that warrants these official revisions?

Car crash on their way to the bar...

[Morkle]

In Laws had to get tested today. Results in 5-7 days, feels like that's too long.

[meow]

It is. Turn around time should be less than 24 hours at this point

[count2infinity]

Here's a nice guide to testing:

https://cen.acs.org/analytical-chemistr ... KwUEZFkOaI

Shows you what the different tests are and the pros and cons of each type. The nucleic acid tests are probably still days to get results due to the test taking a long time plus the likely backlog of tests that they need to wade through each day.

[count2infinity]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 5/fulltext

I know this is only an antibody test, but for the outbreaks they had there, 5% seems really low.

[grunthy]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 5/fulltext

I know this is only an antibody test, but for the outbreaks they had there, 5% seems really low.

There are studies that show a lot of people don't develop antibodies to covid, but T-cell response. Saw one that was for every person that had antibodies, two people only developed T-cell response. So it could be 5% antibodies but 15% of their population actually had it.

[Beveridge]

Wife cared for another patient on Friday who had already gotten a negative test earlier in the week, They decided to test again after my wife cared for the patient all day in nothing but a surgical mask. 2nd test came back negative. Not the most fun 4th weekend.

[nocera]

Wife cared for another patient on Friday who had already gotten a negative test earlier in the week, They decided to test again after my wife cared for the patient all day in nothing but a surgical mask. 2nd test came back negative. Not the most fun 4th weekend.

Sounds like everything is all good though, no? I'm sure that was a long wait for the results.

[Beveridge]

Yeah. We weren't as worried because of the negative test 2 days earlier. Certain things weren't happening that made the doctor order a 2nd test to make sure because the doctor was convinced first test was false. Hopefully it wasn't a 2 for 2 false kind of thing.

[mac5155]

My brother's fiancee was having her bachelor party in Miami next weekend (rescheduled from March), and I keep telling my wife she needs to not go - which she's 100% on board with - but the way women act around other women when it comes to weddings just annoys me to hell and back. Walking on egg shells. I get it - she had to reschedule her wedding twice now because of this (April 2020 > August 2020 > April 2021 to be safe). So, look. Reschedule the bachelorette party too. My wife was prepared to go and literally quarantine for 2 weeks while I went and lived at my parents for the quarantine with my kid. Anyway, today I guess she texted her and said 'look, I really dont think I can go' and like 20 minutes later the matron of honor texts everyone and says 'so i was talking to her and she thinks we should reschedule'. Yes. It shouldnt even be a question at this point. you have a literal whole 9 months to reschedule it. Long story short I think my wife got out of it either way which is good with me.

EDIT had the wrong dates but yinz figured it out im sure.

[Troy Loney]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/c ... e=Homepage

Not a great time to go party in Miami.

[nocera]

Yeah. We had to reschedule our June wedding to July 2021. We rescheduled everything along with it including bachelor/bachelorette parties and shower. If we can't safely have a wedding, we can't safely have the parties that go with it. It sucks and I'm sure the bride is bummed, but at the same time who wants to have a bachelorette party 9 months before the wedding?

[nocera]

With 24 teams inside the bubble (at 52 people per team), that is 1,248 tests required daily for team personnel only. Add in all of the other levels and it is easy to imagine the NHL requiring upwards of 2,000 tests daily to begin the 24-team tournament. That is 20,000 tests in first 10 days alone.

https://www.tsn.ca/how-nhl-plans-to-ope ... -1.1492443

So, I'm guessing there isn't a testing shorting anymore?

[obhave]

Public health initiatives to get people to wear masks during the Spanish flu:
https://www.businessinsider.com/people- ... mic-2020-5

I thought this was interesting, especially how much is similar to today.

[Dickie Dunn]

With 24 teams inside the bubble (at 52 people per team), that is 1,248 tests required daily for team personnel only. Add in all of the other levels and it is easy to imagine the NHL requiring upwards of 2,000 tests daily to begin the 24-team tournament. That is 20,000 tests in first 10 days alone.

https://www.tsn.ca/how-nhl-plans-to-ope ... -1.1492443

So, I'm guessing there isn't a testing shorting anymore?

If you have the money there never was.

[King Colby]

Also how fun is a Bachelorette party if you can't go anywhere

[nocera]

Is Miami still locked down? That might actually be one of the few cities in Florida where the bars are still closed.

[Troy Loney]

In Laws had to get tested today. Results in 5-7 days, feels like that's too long.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/06/us-coro ... -says.html

While the supply chain has been bolstered since March through public investment, test manufacturers like LabCorp and Quest have reported a backlog in recent weeks. LabCorp said it delivers test results, on average, within one to two days from specimen pick-up, but spokeswoman Kelly Smith Aceituno told CNBC last week “results on average may take 1-2 days longer” due to the recent surge in parts of the U.S.

[nocera]

If only your in-laws were professional athletes.

[Troy Loney]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... s-covid-19

Looks like Miami just locked down restaurants and gyms. Guessing standing room bars were closed?

[Troy Loney]

Apparently the struggles in Texas are not due to bed capacity, but staffing capacity.

A record 8,181 coronavirus patients were hospitalized Sunday in Texas, and officials in major cities warned that hospitals' intensive care capabilities could be overwhelmed within weeks, the Texas Tribune reports.

Seems like all sorts of bad.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-texas ... dbe44.html

[grunthy]

Apparently the struggles in Texas are not due to bed capacity, but staffing capacity.

A record 8,181 coronavirus patients were hospitalized Sunday in Texas, and officials in major cities warned that hospitals' intensive care capabilities could be overwhelmed within weeks, the Texas Tribune reports.

Seems like all sorts of bad.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-texas ... dbe44.html

I saw people freaking out about TMC had 97% usage of icu. Same time last year they were at 95% apparently.