COVID-19

[grunthy]

The experts are still saying surface transmission is possible, but it’s not thought to be the primary form of infection. They are still saying to wipe down surfaces, don’t touch your face, and wash your hands.

And for being one of the few that posts articles and statistics, it’s odd you’re ignoring the ones that say protests aren’t a large spreader.

Probably because it will change thirty times like everything else about how this virus transmits

So then I guess all those times you posted stats and articles were pretty pointless eh?

I’m done. Have fun derailing the thread. It’s what some of you do.

[nocera]

I’m just confused why you would feel the need to list your credentials as one of the few who posts stats to back up your claims then turns a blind eye to the stats that are being presented because it doesn’t support your assumptions.

Again, I’ve said from the start that protests are risk. It would be shocking if there haven’t been outbreaks due to a protest. But that’s exactly what the data is currently saying. That may change, sure, but why ignore current data? It certainly isn’t because it’s early and it could change because you haven’t been shy about posting early data on other things.

[grunthy]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20132449v1

Study showing not everyone develops antibodies. So using just antibody testing to see past infection could be missing a lot of people who have already been infected.

Reposting this because it was buried after the avalanche of ridiculousness.

[NTP66]

I don’t know why you and Tony bother.

[nocera]

I don’t know why you and Tony bother.

You’re right. I have no will power.

[AuthorTony]

I don’t know why you and Tony bother.

You’re right. I have no will power.

+1

[grunthy]

I’m just confused why you would feel the need to list your credentials as one of the few who posts stats to back up your claims then turns a blind eye to the stats that are being presented because it doesn’t support your assumptions.

Again, I’ve said from the start that protests are risk. It would be shocking if there haven’t been outbreaks due to a protest. But that’s exactly what the data is currently saying. That may change, sure, but why ignore current data? It certainly isn’t because it’s early and it could change because you haven’t been shy about posting early data on other things.

Because the article that was posted even casted doubt on how much it spread from the protests.

Good lord.

[Troy Loney]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/new-yor ... itive.html

Florida sending covid back to New York. Role reversal

[DigitalGypsy66]

Over 1600 confirmed and probable cases in SC today, which shatters the daily record. Tourism centric counties like Charleston and Horry (Dirty Myrtle) are hot spots. Hospital beds up over 900, and a positive test rate of nearly 20%.

Yet our governor won’t close beaches or mandate mask usage. He says the mask laws would be unenforceable.

[willeyeam]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20132449v1

Study showing not everyone develops antibodies. So using just antibody testing to see past infection could be missing a lot of people who have already been infected.

Reposting this because it was buried after the avalanche of ridiculousness.

What does this mean for herd immunity?

[grunthy]

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... distancing

“A recent study in The Lancet found that, on average, the duration from symptoms to death is 17.8 days (and that recovery can take nearly 25 days). Other studies have shown it can take a week for the disease to progress from the start of symptoms to a person needing hospitalization.”

This is interesting. If you take this 17.8 days from onset of symptoms to death plus the average on set of symptoms which is about 5.1 days, you obviously get 22.9.

The interesting part is New York City’s peak deaths occurred April 11th. That would imply peak infection would have been on March 19th. NY’s stay at home order started on 22nd.

[grunthy]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20132449v1

Study showing not everyone develops antibodies. So using just antibody testing to see past infection could be missing a lot of people who have already been infected.

Reposting this because it was buried after the avalanche of ridiculousness.

What does this mean for herd immunity?

I didn’t see if it gave a breakdown of what percentage of people get this vs antibody, but whatever the percentage breakdown is would imply that many more people have had it.

Ex. Say it’s 60% antibodies and 40% T-cell. If we are are saying the USA is at 8% antibodies based on tests, then in theory possibly around 12% actually had it.

[Kaiser]

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... distancing

“A recent study in The Lancet found that, on average, the duration from symptoms to death is 17.8 days (and that recovery can take nearly 25 days). Other studies have shown it can take a week for the disease to progress from the start of symptoms to a person needing hospitalization.”

This is interesting. If you take this 17.8 days from onset of symptoms to death plus the average on set of symptoms which is about 5.1 days, you obviously get 22.9.

The interesting part is New York City’s peak deaths occurred April 11th. That would imply peak infection would have been on March 19th. NY’s stay at home order started on 22nd.

Are you using a range of numbers to imply the lockdown was too late to be the main factor in the drop?

[shoeshine boy]

Yet our governor won’t close beaches or mandate mask usage. He says the mask laws would be unenforceable.

one of my friends is a professor at a local college. he has a few COVID risk factors and his husband is loaded with COVID risk factors. the university will not allow him to require masks in his classroom when they return in the Fall.

[Freddy Rumsen]

Over 1600 confirmed and probable cases in SC today, which shatters the daily record. Tourism centric counties like Charleston and Horry (Dirty Myrtle) are hot spots. Hospital beds up over 900, and a positive test rate of nearly 20%.

Yet our governor won’t close beaches or mandate mask usage. He says the mask laws would be unenforceable.

They would be unenforceable.

NC has it and there is no difference between either side of the border.

[faftorial]

If you mandate it then more will wear masks. The others should be shamed.

[CBear3]

A mandate also helps businesses have a leg to stand on and eliminate the argument with customers.
I believe the way KC is doing it is that there’s fines for businesses that don’t enforce the mandate. It eliminates the police going after individual citizens.

[AuthorTony]

Mandates only work if people are reasonable though. Giant Eagle is getting sued by a few dozen dipshits for trying to enforce mask wearing and who knows how many other people have declared they're never going to shop there again because "muh rights."

[offsides]

Giant Eagle is getting sued by a few dozen dipshits for trying to enforce mask wearing

Who are the dipsh*ts, the customers or the lawyers. I'll vote for the lawyers.

[AuthorTony]

Both.

[DigitalGypsy66]

Yeah, you leave the enforcement to the store owners/businesses who don't want their staff getting sick or spreading it to family members.

Miami is fining people up to $500 if they don't wear masks: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miami-face ... ronavirus/

Now how many people will actually get fined? I doubt many.

[MWB]

Over 1600 confirmed and probable cases in SC today, which shatters the daily record. Tourism centric counties like Charleston and Horry (Dirty Myrtle) are hot spots. Hospital beds up over 900, and a positive test rate of nearly 20%.

Yet our governor won’t close beaches or mandate mask usage. He says the mask laws would be unenforceable.

They would be unenforceable.

NC has it and there is no difference between either side of the border.

NC went into effect at 5pm Friday. A little early to say there’s no difference. Also, I disagree with there being no difference. SC mask usage has seemed quite a bit lower the past month.

[RonnieFranchise]

Mandates only work if people are reasonable though. Giant Eagle is getting sued by a few dozen dipshits for trying to enforce mask wearing and who knows how many other people have declared they're never going to shop there again because "muh rights."

Same ones who won’t watch the NFL again

[dodint]

My step-mom is insisting she can go on vacation to Ocean City later in July. Hoping it gets shut down so she doesn't get my Dad killed. **** idiot.

[Gaucho]