2020 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Club Thread

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:58 pm

It has come to a point in major league baseball that a player isn't available to pinch run because of rain delay and injury makes the task of running 180 feet impossible

That's embarrassing

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:07 pm

No one overcomplicates things better than baseball.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:24 pm

Cole Tucker has played zero innings at SS this season. Fire Shelton.

Postby **dodint** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:29 pm

Pirates are on pace for 12-48.

Single digit wins remain unlikely; unless you factor in Corona Cancellations. 20 wins is improbable, now, imo.

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:18 am

#Embracethetank

Postby **Rocco** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:21 am

Del Bozo feels too obvious for a derogatory nickname, and I can't even recycle White Flag because Doofus McBeardy keeps bringing this schmuck in to pitch in meaningful spots.

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:32 am

Shelton is worse than Russell.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:56 am

They lost!? I saw it at 4-0 and figured they would finally get out of that tie with the Marlins. Well at least soon to be 29 year old Erik Gonzalez got some reps at SS.

Del Pozo had a 10.61 ERA last season and is at 12.27 for his career. How did this guy find a job outside the Frontier League?

Postby **willeyeam** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:09 am

I like Shelton

Postby **willeyeam** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:11 am

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:13 am

the bullpen would suck if crick and feliz and holmes were not injured and kela was.....here? not sick? either way, that is four guys that were supposed to be part of a (bad) major league bullpen and now they arent. those guys stunk and the replacements are obviously going to suck more. so shelton is in a tough spot here.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:14 am

What a rocket.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:37 am

#Embracethetank

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the ... pe=0&team=

Both MLB.com Prospect Watch and fangraphs have these two Vandy pitchers as the top 2021 draft prospects. Getting a plug and play NCAA stud SP would be ideal here if the target is a 2022-2023 start of the window.

Postby **King Colby** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:57 am

the bullpen would suck if crick and feliz and holmes were not injured and kela was.....here? not sick? either way, that is four guys that were supposed to be part of a (bad) major league bullpen and now they arent. those guys stunk and the replacements are obviously going to suck more. so shelton is in a tough spot here.

And Santana too. But like... del lose-o should never pitch in a close game

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:13 am

Felix sent to the 45 day DL. They mus never want to see him again.

Postby **willeyeam** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:39 am

join the club

Postby **Rocco** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:11 am

#Embracethetank
https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the ... pe=0&team=

Both MLB.com Prospect Watch and fangraphs have these two Vandy pitchers as the top 2021 draft prospects. Getting a plug and play NCAA stud SP would be ideal here if the target is a 2022-2023 start of the window.

MLB's just waiting to futz with the draft rules and steer the #1 pick to someone like St. Louis if the Pirates finish with the worst record.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:15 am

that would be quite **** if that change were effective before the next draft. One would think a rule change could not be retroactively put in place.

Postby **King Colby** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:21 am

You're giving Manfred too much credit

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:51 am

Yeah, this isn’t the year to tank for a #1 overall pick.

Holland looked pretty good until the sixth inning, and a competent CF could’ve kept the Pirates ahead. But he hit a HR, which Dyson wouldn’t have done, so....

I just think it’s odd to start Tucker there in CF - one of the high skill positions - after only a few weeks of reps there in Summer Camp. Didn’t Reynolds play CF last year? Couldn’t you move Tucker into a corner position for a while?

It is like they aren’t trying to field their best team or something, which goes back to my first thought in this post.

Postby **iamjs** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:53 am

Pirates are on pace for 12-48.

Single digit wins remain unlikely; unless you factor in Corona Cancellations. 20 wins is improbable, now, imo.

They are on pace for a .200 season, which would break the Modern Era record by .035 and would be the 4th worst of all time.
1886-1899
1889 Louisville Colonels, 18-120, .122
1899 Cleveland Spiders, 20-134, .130
1890 Pittsburgh Alleghenys, 23-113, .169

2020 Pittsburgh Pirates, 12-48*, .200

1900-present
1916 Philadelphia A's, 36-117, .235

The one record that the Pirates shouldn't be able to break is the 1890 Alleghenys' worst road win percentage of .093, minimum of 60 games. The Pirates would have to win two games total, which would give them .067. Looking at their schedule so far, they are 0-7 on the road so maybe there's a chance it could happen.

Postby **willeyeam** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:54 am

Yeah, this isn’t the year to tank for a #1 overall pick.

Oh but it is. Give me Kumar Rocker

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:30 am

Well, yes to Rocker, but Manfred may play fast and loose with how the draft rankings go in this short season.

And let’s be honest, Rocker would probably be a Boras client who’ll be gone before he hits his prime anyway.

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:46 pm

just realized pirates have a day game today. better rest some of the "starters" to prevent fatigue in this 60 game season

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:48 pm

Update:

good to know kevin newman (age 27 ) is getting the day off and erik gon (career war 0.9) gets another start at short