2020 Pittsburgh Pirates Baseball Club Thread

Postby **King Colby** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:24 pm

Yeah everyone kinda plays .500 ball for a while so 17 wins is probably way too low. I'm sticking with it

Postby **willeyeam** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:26 pm

It's gonna be odd, weird things are gonna happen. A 7 game streak one way or the other for anyone can really change things quickly. Pirates start 2-8 or something and 17 is definitely in play

Postby **shafnutz05** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:29 pm

Don't we have a 13% chance to win the World Series? Or something? Playoffs? Division? I can't remember.

Postby **iamjs** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:18 pm

KDKA says 13.8% of making the playoffs, but I don't think that's right.

The same article says 6.7% chance of winning the division and 7.1% chance of winning the Wild Card.
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/06 ... fangraphs/

The fangraph chart: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-obscene ... standings/

Postby **willeyeam** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:29 pm

i literally posted it on the last page

Postby **dodint** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:33 pm

6.7%+7.1%=13.8%.

Assuming you count the Wildcard as playoffs.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:59 am

So I guess that would be roughly 1:8 odds on them *not* making the postseason in any way. Is there a sports book I can put down 8 grand on that?

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:25 am

So apparently Crick has not yet pitched and Kela has not yet shown up.

20-40

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:28 am

Where the **** is kela

Postby **willeyeam** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:37 am

hector noesi has opted out of the season as well

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:40 am

Hector noesi's career war is -1.9

Postby **willeyeam** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:43 am

Hector noesi's career war is -1.9

so we lost our 3rd best reliever?

Postby **King Colby** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:48 am

Kela with the classic No-Call-No-Show

Postby **iamjs** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:53 am

6.7%+7.1%=13.8%.

Assuming you count the Wildcard as playoffs.

I understood how they got to their numbers. I'm just not in agreement with how they got there.

My point was making the playoffs should be viewed as making the wild card, which would be 6.7%. So why are they adding both percentages?

Postby **dodint** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:55 am

You're right in a way. The wildcard isn't the playoffs so that shouldn't be included in the overall chance.

Postby **willeyeam** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:58 am

6.7%+7.1%=13.8%.

Assuming you count the Wildcard as playoffs.
I understood how they got to their numbers. I'm just not in agreement with how they got there.

My point was making the playoffs should be viewed as making the wild card, which would be 6.7%. So why are they adding both percentages?

Because if you win the division (lol) you skip the wild card round

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:07 am

So we have at least two players who are ambivalent to playing for the Pirates - Kela was meh on the Buccos last year (publicly) and Dyson said the Pirates contract was the only one offered to him. That's not optimal.

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:14 am

i forgot about jarod dyson for some reason

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:19 am

Puig hasn't signed anywhere yet? I guess they don't need another underperforming right fielder, but still...

Postby **shafnutz05** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:42 pm

Puig hasn't signed anywhere yet? I guess they don't need another underperforming right fielder, but still...

Wow, he is only 29? How far has his star fallen.

Postby **King Colby** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:04 pm

i forgot about jarod dyson for some reason

How could you forget about some spare part replacement level journeyman?

Postby **King Colby** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:07 pm

do other teams have the same experiences with people completely mailing it in, or is that strictly a pirates thing? Over the last 20 years there have been so damn many. Derek bell, Raul modesi, Ramon martinez, chisenhall, kela, probably a few more im forgetting

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:32 pm

who was the vet from the tigers i believe that retired after getting traded to the pirates? darrin or derrik or something like that. had a pretty good career prior to retiring before playing for the pirates. didnt craig monroe also do something similar?

Postby **King Colby** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:51 pm

who was the vet from the tigers i believe that retired after getting traded to the pirates? darrin or derrik or something like that. had a pretty good career prior to retiring before playing for the pirates. didnt craig monroe also do something similar?

Darren Lewis. Acquired from the cubs for Chad hermansen

Postby **faftorial** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:58 pm

There was another Pirate (right fielder maybe) who was a real dog when he signed here. Barely made an effort to run to first on easy outs. George Hendricks comes to mind but I don't think it was him. Maybe late 80's?