2019-2020 Pittsburgh Pirates Off-Season Thread

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:49 pm

Turning the page.

Starting lineup in 2020:

C: Jacob Stallings/Rando pick-up
1B: Josh Bell
2B: Cole Tucker
SS: Kevin Newman
3B: Colin Moran/Rando pick-up "bounceback candidate"
OF: Bryan Reynolds
OF: Mystery Player
OF: Jose Osuna

SP: Musgrove
SP: Archer
SP: Williams
SP: Rando pick-up "gamer who needs a chance"
SP: Brault

Close: Kela

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Postby Beveridge » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:50 pm

Nobody Cares

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:59 pm

i'm too apathetic to even try to explain this sht

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:07 pm

Just so my prediction carries over:
Dave Dombrowski - fired. Neal Huntington - still gainfully employed. What a world.

Weekend series with a Cards did good for Nutting's wallet on the fake attendance numbers. Now 444 ahead of last year with 9 home games to go, including a series with the Cubs and a weekend series with the Reds. Need to average less than 11,287 per game to fall below last season.

Saw this awesome headline on the Pirates website:
Bucs' starting INF likely to remain same in 2020
I mean ****, at this point I expect nearly the entire roster to stay the same for 2020.

Williams
Musgrove
Brault
Archer
Keller
One of their many scrub bullpen arms
Stratton
Crick
Feliz
Rodriguez
Santana
Kela
Vazquez
Stallings
Bell
Frazier
Moran
Newman
Reynolds
Marte
Polanco
Diaz
EGon
Osuna
Reyes/Martin

Your 2020 Pittsburgh Pirates. Catch Bucco Fever everyone.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:11 pm

Frazier will be the second baseman again.

Polanco will be back in RF, but hopefully they bring in a real outfielder that could potentially push him to the bench.

If Marte is traded, I don't think you can do that in isolation, either you rebuild or go for it. I can't get behind just moving Marte for spare parts (cause he's not going to get a significant return).

Assuming the Pirates sit on their asses again this offseason, I think it will look something like:

C: Stallings/platoon partner
1B: Bell
2B: Frazier
SS: Newman (Tucker at some point)
3B: Moran/scrub (eventually Hayes)
LF: Reynolds
CF: Marte
RF: Polanco/something between Melky and Chisenhall

SP: Archer
SP: Musgrove
SP: Williams
SP: Brault/Keller
SP: Probably something higher than a reclamation project (I assume Vazquez being in jail voids his contract)

RP: Kela will be the closer, then, god knows

They are currently in the 55 million range for payroll as the club stands. They would have to easily double that to fix the pitching staff, but then you are still looking at an iffy offense.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:19 pm

They're gonna lose 100 games next year.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:32 pm

They're gonna lose 100 games next year.
I guess that depends on what they actually have in Reynolds and Newman. I think Bell and Marte can atleast play the part of middle of the order bats, but if Newman and Reynolds are actually 650-750 OPS guys, as opposed to the 800+ OPS guys they were this year, then the lineup is crap.

I think with the pitching, they can't possibly be worse, and a not brain dead coaching staff will atleast get Archer back to an innings eating 4 ERA guy. The prospects of Kela anchored bullpen is scary, so any notion they fancy themselves trying, they need to add a closer or setup guy.
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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:52 pm

if the bullpen doesn't improve, they will lose 100 games

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:48 pm

As much as he irritates me he is actually a decent manager. Always wondered if he'd be one of the characters that you love on your side and hate when they aren't. Hopefully I don't find out cause he's a ******

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:50 pm

They're gonna suck so bad next year. Reynolds may repeat his performance because he's hit 300 everywhere his entire life. But Newman will suck and Bell will regress even a little bit. I predict Marte just quits giving whatever shts he has left and that'll hurt. Ain't gonna be pretty

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:51 pm

2020 Polanco games as a pirate over/under is set at 31.5

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:00 pm

They're gonna suck so bad next year. Reynolds may repeat his performance because he's hit 300 everywhere his entire life. But Newman will suck and Bell will regress even a little bit. I predict Marte just quits giving whatever shts he has left and that'll hurt. Ain't gonna be pretty
I've seen this movie before starring Freddy Sanchez and Brian Giles.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:16 pm

I miss Freddy

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:22 pm


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Postby Ted » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:40 pm

Dejan, ever the hero. “I can’t be the only one bringing it to light.” lol

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:27 pm

So this very prominent former member of the organization will allow dejean to copy and paste a gd text message but wont go public with their grievances? *insert jerking it motion here*

Sidebar: this kind of stunt is right up peduto’s alley (grandstanding, will pander to the common masses, won’t have any actual consequence to an action, etc) so i fully expect it to happen.

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:40 pm

Dejan has been on quite a roll these last few days.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:14 pm

Dejan is a pathetic loser. His livelihood seems tied to the pirates being bad.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:47 pm

Dejan "The Pirates don't move the needle on my website but I tweet about them all the time" Kovacevic

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Postby LeopardLetang » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:10 am

Is dejan as big a bum as Nutting?

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:04 am

Uh oh, Peduto is going to turn PNC park into bike lanes!

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