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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:49 pm

The claim that Meeker County is making in the District Court of Minnesota is that through deceptive and misleading advertising and marketing efforts directed at changing the public perception of narcotics, and to shore up belief that their product was safe for relatively low-grade pain relief and not addictive, Purdue was able to artificially boost sales and revenue, which effectively turned the pharmaceutical company into a criminal enterprise. The racket being a market for their goods that would not have existed, or at least not been nearly as expansive, as it might have been absent those efforts.

Hmm. This sounds like they are trying to make an argument similar to some of the tobacco litigation. A big difference, however, would be the fact that consumers do not have the ability to purchase opioids (at least, legally, that is). IIRC, there's a reliance element for civil RICO, and it strikes me that it's going to be difficult to make out that reliance element when there is a necessary intermediate (i.e., prescribing physicians) in between the public and the opioid makers. And if the argument is that the prescribing physicians were the ones relying upon the alleged false advertising, then there's an issue with damages because the prescribing physicians aren't the ones who were supposedly injured.

I'm not saying the case can't be made, but civil RICO is already a tough cause of action. More likely maybe that pharma tries to reach a global settlement, and I bet settlement is the goal of the litigation. Dangle a couple hundred billion in front of state AGs, and I bet they jump at it.
My understanding of the reliance element (in the healthcare context) is not that a consumer must rely on the advice and actions of an intermediary to obtain the goods or services, it is your second instance where the physician is relying in part on allegedly fraudulent or misleading conduct by Purdue. There presently does not appear to be a consistent interpretation of this element, where some cases have gone all the way to trial and verdict and then not taken up on appeal to SCOTUS, and others where courts have dismissed claims outright (most commonly, it seems, for lack of standing). Civil RICO has gotten a lot of traction in the healthcare space in recent years.

I don't know. But there are around two dozen state attorneys general who have so far refused to agree to the proposed terms of the Purdue BK because there are, as near as can be told, no real consequences for the Sackler family.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:25 pm

I would break this **** guy in half if that were my daughter.


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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:48 pm

These stories make me so angry/upset

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Postby Gaucho » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:02 am

Guys, Harvey Weinstein's attorney would like you to know that Harvey Weinstein's life has been ruined.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:31 am

I'll have my attorney get in touch with his attorney and tell them both to kindly fuk right off.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:37 am

How has this not been posted yet?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/na ... m-n1056201
Navy confirms videos did capture UFO sightings, but it calls them by another name
The U.S. Navy doesn't know exactly what the "unidentified aerial phenomena" seen in the videos are.

Three videos posted online that have been described as being related to UFO sightings do indeed include footage of “unidentified aerial phenomena,” a U.S. Navy spokesman confirmed.

But as for specifics, spokesman Joseph Gradisher said the Navy doesn't know exactly what the objects are.

"The three videos (one from 2004 and two from 2015) show incursions into our military training ranges by unidentified aerial phenomena," Gradisher told NBC News in an emailed statement.

"The Navy has characterized the observed phenomena as unidentified," he said.





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Postby Gaucho » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:55 am

About **** time.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:05 am

Just in time for the Area 51 raid.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:40 pm

https://www.newscentermaine.com/article ... 92997c7bef
According to court documents, Jordynn's father, Shane Smith, told police the mother rubbed heroin on their daughter's gums to help the toddler sleep. Smith and Nelligan told police their daughter had problems with her stomach and sleeping, according to the affidavit.

Smith told police Nelligan had been rubbing heroin on Jordynn's gums for two months prior to her death. He said he saw Nelligan do it at least 15 times.

While in court on Sept. 18, Nelligan made obscene gestures and mouthed inappropriate phrases.
This story enraged me last night, I ended up visiting this worthless junkie's Facebook profile. She had posted a 45 second rant where she was clearly fcked up about being arrested that day (she's out on bail). Later on (I am sure at the insistence of her attorney) she deleted her FB account, which featured various photos of her children with drug paraphenalia in the background. If you Google her name the profile and Internet lynch mob is not hard to find.

It makes me so, so angry that these utter pieces of filth are able to have children. I am firmly in favor of forced sterilization in cases like these. I actually ended up going to my daughter's room last night and laid down next to her while she was sleeping because it upset me so much.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:00 pm

Did you rub some of your heroin on her gums?

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Postby AuthorTony » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:31 pm

:( I love feeding and watching the birds.


Over the past half-century, North America has lost more than a quarter of its entire bird population, or around 3 billion birds.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:47 pm

:( I love feeding and watching the birds.

So you also have an intense hatred for squirrels?

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:58 pm


It makes me so, so angry that these utter pieces of filth are able to have children. I am firmly in favor of forced sterilization in cases like these. I actually ended up going to my daughter's room last night and laid down next to her while she was sleeping because it upset me so much.
We have friends that haven’t been able to have children, one couple adopted last year and another gave up trying. Yet these people procreate and fill the planet with unwanted kids...

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Postby AuthorTony » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:04 pm

:( I love feeding and watching the birds.

So you also have an intense hatred for squirrels?
Pretty much.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:07 pm

:( I love feeding and watching the birds.

So you also have an intense hatred for squirrels?
Pretty much.
:fist:

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Postby robbiestoupe » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:10 pm

:( I love feeding and watching the birds.

So you also have an intense hatred for squirrels?
Pretty much.
:fist:
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Postby NTP66 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:27 pm

It's all of those **** wind turbines killing them off.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:25 pm

I do what I can to take care of the squirrel population.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:40 pm

dems good eatn

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Postby AuthorTony » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:22 pm

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... zer-228109
In 1954, a prison doctor in Kentucky isolated seven black inmates and fed them “double, triple and quadruple” doses of LSD for 77 days straight. No one knows what became of the victims. They may have died without knowing they were part of the CIA’s highly secretive program to develop ways to control minds—a program based out of a little-known Army base with a dark past, Fort Detrick

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Postby Willie Kool » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:33 pm

In 1954, a prison doctor in Kentucky isolated seven black inmates and fed them “double, triple and quadruple” doses of LSD for 77 days straight.
:shock:
No one knows what became of the victims.

They went on to form Funkadelic...
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Postby shmenguin » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:34 pm

According to Planet Earth, birds are the biggest jerks in the animal kingdom.

Justice, I’d say.

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Postby willeyeam » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:11 pm

Ducks are really rapey. It's bizarre

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Postby shmenguin » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:15 pm

Ducks are really rapey. It's bizarre
Saw one eat its own baby once.

Animals.

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