Fifth Avenue Forum

I don't know what context could possibly exist that would prompt a defense for that officer's decision.

But again, why would they be tasing him if he was breaking up the dispute?

It sounds like the cops already had their minds made up as to who was the aggressor in this situation even with witnesses trying to tell them otherwise.

Dude, I know you hate the police but come on.

THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS BREAKING UP THE DISPUTE. FRIENDLY WITNESSES ARE KNOWN TO LIE.

If you were just an innocent bystander that broke up a fight...let's put yourself in those shoes. The police are called for a domestic call, they come out. Again, YOU (the innocent bystander)..what would you do? Would you just stand there and talk to the cops about what happened? Or would you immediately start ignoring them, ignore their follow up orders to not move, and make a bee line for your car? That is literally the stupidest thing someone can do...you are asking for death by cop in that scenario because there have been way too many instances of people grabbing guns out of their car and shooting. It happens all the time.

It amazes me that you are so readily accepting the BLM version of this incident at face value. I have been on record countless times in this thread criticizing police shootings, brutality, etc., so I am hardly a thin blue line guy. But the only things the cops did wrong in this situation was tase him before he was close to getting in his car.

You are letting your bias against law enforcement in general color your view of this.

Well, that's not particularly honest either. Just on the other side of the scale.

Exactly CBear. The bar for a cop to shoot anyone is ridiculously low. Sure he could have been getting a gun but maybe he was getting a phone, drink of water, identification... a million other things. Maybe he was just going to drive away. I totally understand that in the USA today walking away from the cops is a possible death sentence. It's just how it is right now. But that doesn't make it right.

Exactly CBear. The bar for a cop to shoot anyone is ridiculously low. Sure he could have been getting a gun but maybe he was getting a phone, drink of water, identification... a million other things. Maybe he was just going to drive away. I totally understand that in the USA today walking away from the cops is a possible death sentence. It's just how it is right now. But that doesn't make it right.

Damn. Just let everyone drive away wow being questioned or arrested by the police.

I don't think they were worried about him driving away. They were worried about him reaching into his car and pulling out a weapon. That's the whole reason why they were telling him to not move and to stop moving towards the vehicle.

You get his plates, get a warrant, and serve the warrant at his residence if he is truly committing a crime.

No one gets shot.

What you don't do is grab his shirt and shoot him in the back 7 times.

I mean, how hard is it to not do that?

I've got no problem restraining him with the three officers that were present. You missed your chance to prevent him from driving away when he walked to the driver's side of the car and failed to stop him.

In this case, they better hope the guy pulls through. Because they didn't get a chance to question him or arrest him if he dies.

You get his plates, get a warrant, and serve the warrant at his residence if he is truly committing a crime.

No one gets shot.

What you don't do is grab his shirt and shoot him in the back 7 times.

I mean, how hard is it to not do that?

If the world was full of butterflies and sparkles, sure.

They were going to a domestic violence call. They let the guy drive off with the kids, he goes home, gets a gun, holes up with the kids and makes the situation 10Xs worse as well as putting the kids in danger is another option that could realistically happen and that they are trying to prevent.

We don't know what is going on in people's mind.

The man they shot was not one of the parties involved in the dispute, which was between two women. He was there trying to break up the fight.

Still shocked, after all these years, seeing people think that shooting someone is a rational response to resisting arrest.

Still shocked, after all these years, seeing people think that shooting someone is a rational response to resisting arrest.

The man they shot was not one of the parties involved in the dispute, which was between two women. He was there trying to break up the fight.

They don't know that at the time. It's so easy when you have hindsight.