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Postby dodint » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:51 pm

Sounds like Peduto's finest.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:20 pm

Video shows fired Paterson police officer brutally assaulting hospital patient

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 278641002/
Two videos, made public in federal court in Newark, show a Paterson police officer brutally beating a patient at St. Joseph’s Regional Hospital.

In the video, a patient, lying in his hospital bed, tells the officer "do it," "do it" before Ruben McAusland slaps the man twice across the face, so hard that blood sprays onto the bed.

Ruben McAusland was sentenced Wednesday to more than five years in prison for drug dealing and assaulting a hospital patient. McAusland was on duty and in uniform during the March 18, 2018 incident.

The patient, identified as Andrew Casciano, has filed a $4 million lawsuit against the city.

Police officer Roger Then recorded video of the assault with his cell phone. Then has pleaded guilty in the hospital assault.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:22 pm

Kansas City Kansas Public School resource officer arrested on suspicion of multiple child sex crimes

https://fox4kc.com/2019/03/27/kck-schoo ... ex-crimes/

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Postby Shyster » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:32 pm

Well that certainly satisfies my complaint of currency.

To be clear, I am not searching for old videos, and if an older video or event is referenced here, it will be because the video or event has been raised by a recent news story, blog post, litigation update, etc. For example, the 2013 video in the first page was reposted and highlighted by the ACLU of Missouri in 2018 because the ACLU is handing the litigation on behalf of the black pedestrian who was attacked by the police. Likewise, the video of the police tasing the man in the testicles was recorded in 2017, but the police fought the release of the body cams for over a year, and that's why the news reports didn't come out until much later.

If I were to post older videos or stories of police abuse, then this thread would easily be ten times longer than it is now. And I'm not even searching very hard to get content. I follow a number of "cop block" type organizations on Facebook, YouTube, etc., and they have new stories of abuse pretty much every day. Police abuse and criminality is not rare. It's happening constantly.

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Postby Guinness » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:40 pm

Good, important thread, Shyster.

Daniel Shaver. I didn't go searching for the LiveLeak version of this, but suffice to say that he ends up dead shortly after this CBS clip ends:



I see you weren't looking for older incidents, but this is one of the more disgusting, abhorrent police murders.

I can't recall exactly what happened to this POS. I can say that what SHOULD have happened is that Daniel Shaver's family should have been given custody of him. What might have happened after that wouldn't be any of our business.

I believe WK said earlier ITT that the police should treat people with respect, not the opposite. :thumb: I'll go further than that, of course. Police should be held to a MUCH higher standard for the use of deadly force than the average citizen, and if/when they cross that line, if found guilty... as I stated above - their fate should fall to the hands of their victims survivors. And then you'd see these incidents drop to about zero.

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Postby AuthorTony » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:43 pm

That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Watched it once when the cop was on trial. Never want to see that again.

The cop was acquitted, of course. He was afraid for his life.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:49 pm

Yes, when you are officially authorized by the state to use deadly force in the common defense, the actual exercise of that force should be subject to greater scrutiny, not less. These are people who (it says here) receive specialized training on the deployment of force... but, more importantly, they also receive specialized training on conflict de-escalation. So while I do not necessarily think the outset of a police UOF proceeding should start with a presumption of guilt, I do think it is incumbent upon the officer to set forth why de-escalation was not an option in a more substantive way than "I was scared".

'Scared' is the job, sparky.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:56 pm

Yes, when you are officially authorized by the state to use deadly force in the common defense, the actual exercise of that force should be subject to greater scrutiny, not less. These are people who (it says here) receive specialized training on the deployment of force... but, more importantly, they also receive specialized training on conflict de-escalation. So while I do not necessarily think the outset of a police UOF proceeding should start with a presumption of guilt, I do think it is incumbent upon the officer to set forth why de-escalation was not an option in a more substantive way than "I was scared".

'Scared' is the job, sparky.
I think there should also be significant push-back against proactive policing and prosecuting. I believe multiple people recently were more than happy to tout that justifcation for the Rosfeld shooting. Essentially saying that Rose should have been shot to prevent him from causing more danger. I think we see in other discussions where judges and prosecutors are attacked in political adds for some criminal that got off that went on to commit another crime as though said these officials should have put him jail for life when they had the chance.

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Postby AuthorTony » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:05 pm

I mention police shooting dogs here frequently and no one really responds, but I'll keep beating the drum that it's a prime example of how trigger happy police in the US have become.

https://qz.com/870601/police-killing-do ... epartment/
Police and dogs in the US have a complicated relationship. On the one hand, canines work for cops, sniffing for drugs and bombs. On the other hand, cops shoot dogs a lot—so much so that even law enforcement publications are asking, “Can police stop killing dogs?“
https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/ ... -epidemic/
Cops in this country kill so many dogs each year that a specialist at the Department of Justice’s (“DOJ”) community-oriented program services office says it has become an “epidemic.” The DOJ estimates that around 25 to 30 dogs are killed by cops every day, with some numbers as high as 10,000 per year. The totals could, in fact, be higher, since most police agencies do not formally track officer-involved shootings involving animals.
https://www.rutherford.org/publications ... amily_dogs
Consider that if you kill a police dog, you could face a longer prison sentence than if you’d murdered someone or abused a child.

If a cop kills your dog, however, there will be little to no consequences for that officer.

Not even a slap on the wrist.

In this, as in so many instances of official misconduct by government officials, the courts have ruled that the cops have qualified immunity, a legal doctrine that incentivizes government officials to engage in lawless behavior without fear of repercussions.

This is the heartless, heartbreaking, hypocritical injustice that passes for law and order in America today.

It is estimated that a dog is shot by a police officer “every 98 minutes.”

The Department of Justice estimates that at least 25 dogs are killed by police every day. 

The Puppycide Database Project estimates the number of dogs being killed by police to be closer to 500 dogs a day (which translates to 182,000 dogs a year).
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Arzy, a 14-month-old Newfoundland, Labrador and golden retriever mix, was shot between the eyes by a Louisiana police officer. The dog had been secured on a four-foot leash at the time he was shot. An independent witness testified that the dog never gave the officer any provocation to shoot him.

Seven, a St. Bernard, was shot repeatedly by Connecticut police in the presence of the dog’s 12-year-old owner. Police, investigating an erroneous tip, had entered the property—without a warrant—where the dog and her owner had been playing in the backyard, causing the dog to give chase.

Dutchess, a 2-year-old rescue dog, was shot three times in the head by Florida police as she ran out her front door. The officer had been approaching the house to inform the residents that their car door was open when the dog bounded out to greet him.

Yanna, a 10-year-old boxer, was shot three times by Georgia police after they mistakenly entered the wrong home and opened fire, killing the dog, shooting the homeowner in the leg and wounding an investigating officer.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:25 pm

I think there should also be significant push-back against proactive policing and prosecuting. I believe multiple people recently were more than happy to tout that justifcation for the Rosfeld shooting. Essentially saying that Rose should have been shot to prevent him from causing more danger.
I didn't follow the story, so this is just guessing. But that is actually a (potentially) valid defense for shooting a fleeing suspect under Garner and Graham. However, to my knowledge, the sum total of information the officer had when he pulled the trigger was that the car matched the description of a vehicle used in a drive-by earlier that night. Is that accurate? If it is, then this shoot would've failed the Graham test imo, because there was no indication the fleeing suspect was armed or posed any actual immediate danger to the police officer or any other civilians.

But he was scared, so the analysis doesn't rise to that level. I'm not sure what kind of a scaredy cat you have to be for a suspect that is increasing their distance from your muzzle and not aggressing to make your brain flip the shoot switch. But okay.

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Postby Guinness » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:36 am

Essentially saying that Rose should have been shot to prevent him from causing more danger.
Wow, this is a gawd-awful line of reasoning. Why bother with courts, defense attorneys, juries and all of that cumbersome nonsense at all, then? This makes cops judge/jury/executioner... it's actually worse than the "I feared for my life" defense tactic.

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Postby Guinness » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:40 am

I mention police shooting dogs here frequently and no one really responds, but I'll keep beating the drum that it's a prime example of how trigger happy police in the US have become.
:thumb: I'm with you.

My (entirely unscientific) speculation is that dog-killing cops are people-killing cops in waiting.

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Postby tifosi77 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:31 pm

Animal aggression has long been recognized as part of the 'Macdonald triad' as a predictor of serial violent behavior. (Along with fire setting and bed wetting.)

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Postby Shyster » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:08 pm

NYPD cruiser plows car off street in wild road rage video

https://nypost.com/2019/04/01/nypd-crui ... age-video/

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Postby Shyster » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:52 pm

Vallejo California police release body-cam video of Willie McCoy killing, showing him asleep in car

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... eo-vallejo

Not once did the police try to wake Mr. McCoy or determine if he was in any medical distress. Instead, they shot him no less than 25 times in the face, throat, chest, ear and arms within three seconds of Mr. McCoy moving/waking up. Demonstrating the attitude of police cowardice and "officer safety über alles," note the police continuing to demand that McCoy show "hands" even though they just shot him 25 times. Maybe they wanted to shoot him in the hands too.

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Postby Rigger » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:45 pm

**** THE POLICE

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Postby Trip McNeely » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:51 pm

I truly believe that so many of these acquittals occur because of the jury worrying what would happen to a police officer in prison general population. No one wants to put a guy away to hear he’s killed while in prison.

It might not be fair, but I think if the prosecution stressed that a guilty verdict would send that cop to a white collar-esque prison, there would be more convictions

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:14 pm

NYPD cruiser plows car off street in wild road rage video

https://nypost.com/2019/04/01/nypd-crui ... age-video/
WTF?!

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Postby Rigger » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:22 pm

I truly believe that so many of these acquittals occur because of the jury worrying what would happen to a police officer in prison general population. No one wants to put a guy away to hear he’s killed while in prison.

It might not be fair, but I think if the prosecution stressed that a guilty verdict would send that cop to a white collar-esque prison, there would be more convictions
**** that. If there was any Justice in this country the death penalty would be reserved for corrupt "public servants".

People like Ken Anderson would be executed on national TV, not getting 10 days in jail. Oh and the judge that passed or prosecutor who only sought that punishment should also be disbarred.

**** them all.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:22 am

As one juror in the recent case noted, the way the laws and jury instructions are worded acquittal is often (usually?) the only verdict they can return if certain facts are established. That's what makes laws that allow the "I feared for my life" defense so frustrating.; if jurors believe the claim that the officer ws scared = and in most cases, I honestly don't doubt that = then they are obligated to acquit.

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Postby Jim » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:33 am

Vallejo California police release body-cam video of Willie McCoy killing, showing him asleep in car

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... eo-vallejo

Not once did the police try to wake Mr. McCoy or determine if he was in any medical distress. Instead, they shot him no less than 25 times in the face, throat, chest, ear and arms within three seconds of Mr. McCoy moving/waking up. Demonstrating the attitude of police cowardice and "officer safety über alles," note the police continuing to demand that McCoy show "hands" even though they just shot him 25 times. Maybe they wanted to shoot him in the hands too.
$5 says that if you ask people that went to high school with them they would say that these guys were bullies. With police like them on the road the general public need to fear for its own safety. :pop:

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:41 am

Vallejo California police release body-cam video of Willie McCoy killing, showing him asleep in car

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... eo-vallejo

Not once did the police try to wake Mr. McCoy or determine if he was in any medical distress. Instead, they shot him no less than 25 times in the face, throat, chest, ear and arms within three seconds of Mr. McCoy moving/waking up. Demonstrating the attitude of police cowardice and "officer safety über alles," note the police continuing to demand that McCoy show "hands" even though they just shot him 25 times. Maybe they wanted to shoot him in the hands too.
Police had repeatedly refused to release the video, only giving a private viewing to three relatives and barring their attorney from watching it. But the department published it Friday following a records request and intensifying backlash.

Police officials did not give the family or their attorney a heads-up about their decision to release the video, said Nold, saying it caught them off-guard.
That's going to be a yikes from me.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:01 am

"Let me see your hands".

What a bunch of roided-up thugs.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:04 am

One of the officers who fired at Willie had previously shot and killed an unarmed man and is the subject of an ongoing excessive force lawsuit. A second officer was previously sued in a police brutality case. The officers have not commented on the shooting.
A few bad seeds.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:08 am

And just to be clear, this shows how erroneous that viewpoint it. If the issue was a few bad actors, then bad actors would not be kept on after violent altercations.

While it could be the case that only a small proportion of officers commit gratuitous violence, 100% of police will cover it up.

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