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Postby tifosi77 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:27 pm

The original LOTR trilogy - in EE form - remains the crowning achievement of cinema imo. Filming 3 epics of that scope simultaneously, inventing new technologies to make it happen, remaining as faithful to the original text as they could.... it's just so amazing.

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So one of my good friends that I ran with back in the day was the creative director at New Line home video at the time; the first thing she worked on was the EPK for the DVD release of Se7en, which they sent out to the media in a plain brown box with tufts of blonde hair sticking out. The artwork/design/packaging for the LOTR EE DVDs was 100% her conception. Like, she was the one who personally pitched getting Alan Lee to do exclusive pencil sketches for the inside of the DVDs. (He may have submitted about ten or so other sketches that were unused, the whereabouts of which remain........... well......... I'll just say I made a valiant but unsuccessful attempt at liberating a scroll containing an unknown number of them in 2001) I was part of a group of like half a dozen or so of her friends who were her 'technical consultants' for the trilogy.... we were largely responsible for the inclusion of the maps in the EE set, because my friend's boss didn't see the value of including them, and we were all like "do you realize that Chris Tolkien drew the Maps for the books? That John Ronald plotted the books around the geography??? The Maps are a character!" blah blah blah.... we made such a stink that the exec eventually saw the light, and so the little fold out map that comes with the DVD/BluRay in the EE is there in part owing to yours truly. We were supposed to get credited as advisors for the EE discs, but then Peter Jackson promised to give credits to all of the members of TORN and so my little group of nerds got bumped.

Over the course of several moves of house they have been battered and broken, but as recompense for being excluded from the credits of the EE DVDs, my friend gave me the final production samples of the Argonath bookends that were included with the FOTR release. They were one-of-a-kind at the time, and all the more so today because the hands and heads have been knocked off over the years.

When Brett McKenzie and Jemaine Clement first came to the US to do a showcase (for Fox TV) as Flight Of The Conchords, I got to go see them at a small theater (30-ish people), which was the first time I heard the song Albi The Racist Dragon. After, we took them out to the Derby in Los Feliz and spent the night drinking and talking about music and New Zealand while listening to Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. They were almost painfully shy and quiet, but the friend they brought with them to be their sort of road manager was very boisterous and a total hoot in his denim jacket. They stayed at a hotel on Highland down the street from the Hollywood Bowl, and when we took them home the three of them were crammed into the back of my friend's 4Runner, Brett in the middle.

Also, there is a photo of a drunken me (which I do not have a digital copy of) with Sala Baker (the stuntie in Suaron's armor during the prologue of FOTR) on New Year's Eve at a hotel in Santa Monica waving a bottle of vodka around as if that's just what you do.

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Postby tifosi77 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:29 pm

And not gonna lie...... still kinda amazed they remastered the VFX. That's amazing.

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Postby eddy » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:45 pm

The original LOTR trilogy - in EE form - remains the crowning achievement of cinema imo. Filming 3 epics of that scope simultaneously, inventing new technologies to make it happen, remaining as faithful to the original text as they could.... it's just so amazing.

Yarns!
So one of my good friends that I ran with back in the day was the creative director at New Line home video at the time; the first thing she worked on was the EPK for the DVD release of Se7en, which they sent out to the media in a plain brown box with tufts of blonde hair sticking out. The artwork/design/packaging for the LOTR EE DVDs was 100% her conception. Like, she was the one who personally pitched getting Alan Lee to do exclusive pencil sketches for the inside of the DVDs. (He may have submitted about ten or so other sketches that were unused, the whereabouts of which remain........... well......... I'll just say I made a valiant but unsuccessful attempt at liberating a scroll containing an unknown number of them in 2001) I was part of a group of like half a dozen or so of her friends who were her 'technical consultants' for the trilogy.... we were largely responsible for the inclusion of the maps in the EE set, because my friend's boss didn't see the value of including them, and we were all like "do you realize that Chris Tolkien drew the Maps for the books? That John Ronald plotted the books around the geography??? The Maps are a character!" blah blah blah.... we made such a stink that the exec eventually saw the light, and so the little fold out map that comes with the DVD/BluRay in the EE is there in part owing to yours truly. We were supposed to get credited as advisors for the EE discs, but then Peter Jackson promised to give credits to all of the members of TORN and so my little group of nerds got bumped.

Over the course of several moves of house they have been battered and broken, but as recompense for being excluded from the credits of the EE DVDs, my friend gave me the final production samples of the Argonath bookends that were included with the FOTR release. They were one-of-a-kind at the time, and all the more so today because the hands and heads have been knocked off over the years.

When Brett McKenzie and Jemaine Clement first came to the US to do a showcase (for Fox TV) as Flight Of The Conchords, I got to go see them at a small theater (30-ish people), which was the first time I heard the song Albi The Racist Dragon. After, we took them out to the Derby in Los Feliz and spent the night drinking and talking about music and New Zealand while listening to Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. They were almost painfully shy and quiet, but the friend they brought with them to be their sort of road manager was very boisterous and a total hoot in his denim jacket. They stayed at a hotel on Highland down the street from the Hollywood Bowl, and when we took them home the three of them were crammed into the back of my friend's 4Runner, Brett in the middle.

Also, there is a photo of a drunken me (which I do not have a digital copy of) with Sala Baker (the stuntie in Suaron's armor during the prologue of FOTR) on New Year's Eve at a hotel in Santa Monica waving a bottle of vodka around as if that's just what you do.
That is terrific! Thanks for sharing. I was so fired up from finishing the trilogy last night that I may or may not have bought a 10" glass gandalf pipe for my own personal old tobey...

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:42 pm

You can definitely see the advantage of remastering the fx in 4k, if they didn't do that, it would have looked so bizarre. They did this the right way.
Awesome. Man I can't wait to watch this with my daughter and eventually son. More than any other movies.

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Postby eddy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:22 am

Plot for the new minimum 5 season with 8-10 episodes each season show. I'm sure you guys can fill in the dots here, what are we dealing with?

Amazon Studios’ forthcoming series brings to screens for the very first time the heroic legends of the fabled Second Age of Middle-earth’s history. This epic drama is set thousands of years before the events of J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and will take viewers back to an era in which great powers were forged, kingdoms rose to glory and fell to ruin, unlikely heroes were tested, hope hung by the finest of threads, and the greatest villain that ever flowed from Tolkien’s pen threatened to cover all the world in darkness. Beginning in a time of relative peace, the series follows an ensemble cast of characters, both familiar and new, as they confront the long-feared re-emergence of evil to Middle-earth. From the darkest depths of the Misty Mountains, to the majestic forests of the elf-capital of Lindon, to the breathtaking island kingdom of Númenor, to the furthest reaches of the map, these kingdoms and characters will carve out legacies that live on long after they are gone.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:42 pm

I'm really excited to see the depiction of Númenor.

For as significant as the Second Age was, Tolkien himself wrote precious little about the time. It covers, in part: the rise of Sauron and construction of Barad-dûr; the forging of the Rings of Power and the One Ring; the rise and fall of Númenor, and the exodus of the Faithful (Dúnedain) to Middle-earth and their establishment of the realms of Arnor and Gondor; the Changing of the World and the separation of the Undying Lands away from Arda; the birth (?) of the Nazgûl; Shelob moving to the pass of Cirith Ungol; the Last Alliance. There's an awful lot of material to explore.

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