2018-2019 Pittsburgh Pirate Baseball Club Off-Season Thread of Despair

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:01 am

wait til we sign Machado

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Postby Morkle » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:36 pm

Honestly, it's getting super annoying how fans of the Pirates are justifying this low-payroll saying that the players are good. They better hope the pitching over-performs, because that's all they have.

Especially if this Marte to the Dodgers rumor is true.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:31 pm

I think the pirates are open for business on all the vets. It might actually be a good idea to shop marte now though, he’s likely headed for decline soon. Might be the right time to sell.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:37 pm

gtfo Troy

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Postby Factorial » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:38 pm

I think the pirates are open for business on all the vets. It might actually be a good idea to shop marte now though, he’s likely headed for decline soon. Might be the right time to sell.
And getting caught doing PEDs is stupid as most(?) players do them and don't get caught.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:54 pm

Several reports suggest that the @Pirates could be the mystery team that would be interested in Manny Machado.

#ZDigital #ZDeportes

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Postby Morkle » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:55 pm

I think this is the "Oh we put money on a player and we were THIISSSSS close to signing him guys, totally."

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:57 pm

or perhaps why they want to be the mystery team so it doesn't appear that way

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:38 pm

Several reports suggest that the @Pirates could be the mystery team that would be interested in Manny Machado.

#ZDigital #ZDeportes

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:14 am

I think the pirates are open for business on all the vets. It might actually be a good idea to shop marte now though, he’s likely headed for decline soon. Might be the right time to sell.
Outside of the archer trade, has management made the slightest indication since the mccutchen that they are interested in putting together a contender using the current core? Not really. The pirates players earned themselves (stumbled into?) a winning record last year, but its obvious that management doesn’t see enough upside in the current roster to justify the investment it would take to compete with the big boys. At this point, payroll is such a joke that shedding marte’s $10 million really shouldn’t cause that much of an uproar.

So if they dont think the roster is good enough to win now,, and they dont feel drumming up the money to pay for chisnehall, kang, and nova all at the same time, why even pussyfoot around with paying marte $10 million (which is a good value imo) to contribute worthwhile baseball?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:32 am

Something has to break in this free agent thing, MLB wide. The number of unsigned players is astounding.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:04 am

Reds traded for Sonny Gray and then signed him to an extension. Buccos finishing last this year.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:46 am

Sonny Gray had like a 7.00+ ERA last year.

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Postby Morkle » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:57 am

Something has to break in this free agent thing, MLB wide. The number of unsigned players is astounding.
There's gonna be another labor strike, feels more like teams are coming to terms with trying to run internal caps.

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Postby Viva la Ben » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:59 am

Please Pirates, take anything for Marte.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:57 am

I think the pirates are open for business on all the vets. It might actually be a good idea to shop marte now though, he’s likely headed for decline soon. Might be the right time to sell.
Outside of the archer trade, has management made the slightest indication since the mccutchen that they are interested in putting together a contender using the current core? Not really. The pirates players earned themselves (stumbled into?) a winning record last year, but its obvious that management doesn’t see enough upside in the current roster to justify the investment it would take to compete with the big boys. At this point, payroll is such a joke that shedding marte’s $10 million really shouldn’t cause that much of an uproar.

So if they dont think the roster is good enough to win now,, and they dont feel drumming up the money to pay for chisnehall, kang, and nova all at the same time, why even pussyfoot around with paying marte $10 million (which is a good value imo) to contribute worthwhile baseball?
I have a lot of disconnected thoughts on the current state of affairs.

- The hand wringing over dumping Nova is absurd
- The projected payroll for 2019 is absurd
- They will bring in a FA SS, it will be a stop-gap
- They have a glut of guys heading into their final pre-arb season (Taillon, Musgrove, Williams, Frazier, Bell, Diaz, Gonzalez). Outside of Taillon, I don't think any of them justify an extension. So if any of these players break out in 2019, they will be headed to a decent arbitration payday, and be more likely to wait for FA. Not an optimal situation if they want to lock some players up.
- The payroll is really low because of the number of pre-arb guys occupying major roles. It's kind of a blessing, most teams would use that situation to use financial resources on other players. But that's not how the Pirates do things.
- The AAA team is going to have a really solid collection of prospects Hayes, Tucker, Kramer, Craig, Martin, Reynolds, Keller, Brubaker. The issue though, is that aside from Keller and Hayes, these are just guys that will likely be able to hack it at the MLB level, not necessarily impact guys.
- Being a Pirate fan is akin to being a Pitt fan, any glimpse of success is euphoric as the team is perennially set up to fail.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:22 pm

On the last line Troy...that hurts, but is true.

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Postby Ad@m » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:23 am

Curve to become ‘Allegheny Yinzers’

https://www.milb.com/altoona/news/curve ... -302975152

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:29 am

One of the Pirates beat writers said the Altoona radio team should ignore the actual game and talk about dem Stillers for the entire broadcast. :lol:

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Postby Troy Loney » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:37 am

Pittsburgh Dad Jr. just given hundreds of hours of material

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:21 am

I hate to say it but that is a swing and a miss by the curve

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Postby shafnutz05 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:57 am

I hate to say it but that is a swing and a miss by the curve
Ugh...yes, yes it is. They put out a great product, they shouldn't need to try this hard.

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Postby skullman80 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:04 pm

wait that is real?

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