2018-2019 College Football Thread

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[shafnutz05]

You can't fix stupid (Bowen, that is)

[Dickie Dunn]

Look at this number and then think about many of the proposed changes to transfer rules. Will create insane problems with compliance, recruiting, etc..

2011: 17 Grad Trans in CFB
2017: 211 Grad Trans in CFB

Going to be interesting to see how QBs who are not named starters react in this era.

https://twitter.com/YogiRoth/status/1034141809633447937

I think to a degree we’ve already seen this in college basketball, where if guys don’t get playing time in their first season they bolt. It makes it really hard to build a program and develop players.

[Dickie Dunn]

Zach Smith seems to be having a good day.

[willeyeam]

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[Orlando Penguin]

You can't fix stupid (Bowen, that is)

Given his tweeter announcement yesterday, you might want to edit this one.

[count2infinity]

How does the transfer system work? If he didn't graduate, would he have to sit out an additional year before joining a different team, but with a degree he'd be able to join a new team next year? Or would this year count as the 1 year gap?

[mikey]

I think if you're a grad transfer you can just play...I'm basing this solely off of Madre London going from State to the Vols this year...otherwise, you wait a year...like Cam Newton (?)

[Orlando Penguin]

If you graduate, you can play immediately wherever. But the stipulation is that the class you are doing grad work in wasn’t offered at your previous school. At least that’s the way it used to be. If he doesn’t graduate, then he has to sit out two semesters, which means in Bowen’s case, he’d have had to leave school by now since the semester has started. But he’s planning on getting his degree and going from there.

[slappybrown]

Wtf is northwestern wearing they look like dadholes

Defending national champ UCF continues to dominate

[RonnieFranchise]

NMSU Has already played 2 games which hey have lost 77-17. Nice job getting out of the gate early.

[slappybrown]

Utah state is frisky but dantonio is gonna choke this game out

[Nittany Ned]

Utah state is frisky but dantonio is gonna choke this game out

Dantonio is an absolute clown. I found it hilarious they struggled with Utah St at home last night.

[RonnieFranchise]

If Texas loses to Maryland two years in a row someone should be shot (and probably will).

[mikey]

Rutgers actually has a legit QB. Like NFL upside...

[Nittany Ned]

Are there any WVU fans out there? If so - you guys have a HELL of a team this year. Grier a legit Heisman candidate, improved D. I honestly think they could win the Big 12.

[willeyeam]

ffs

[Freddy Rumsen]

Texas and Michigan...lol

Also...UCLA

[willeyeam]

Akron didn't lose at Nebraska. Go Zips

[shafnutz05]

This is a great Reddit post about the horsesht honoring of deceased UMD player Jordan McNair yesterday.

Between Maryland doing this to honor their teammate and Texas showing both sportsmanship and support by declining the penalty, this is just amazing.

No, this is not amazing. **** this, and **** Maryland football. Throw that coaching staff in jail. Seriously.

Maryland football built a culture of bullying and intimidating that put these kids at risk, and didn't pay them a cent while they make millions off of them.

The coach forced the 19-year old into 110 yard wind sprints in 110 degree weather, despite, "showing signs of extreme exhaustion and difficulty standing upright." The kid collapsed from heat stroke and died in the hospital two weeks later.

Instead of it being a typical summer workout to make sure the players stay near game shape, the coaching staff literally killed a player when they should've known to hold him out of a pointless conditioning drill.

This is what happened right before 19-year old Jordan McNair went into the seizure that killed him:

Multiple sources said that after McNair finished his 10th sprint while two other players held him up, [Head athletic trainer Wes] Robinson yelled, "Drag his ass across the field!"

Oh, and it took the coaching staff an hour after the kid had his seizure and was having difficulty breathing to call 911:

A 911 call recording obtained by ESPN shows that at 5:58 p.m., an unidentified man described McNair as "hyperventilating after exercising and unable to control his breath."

Murphy called the one-hour time gap between McNair showing distress at about 5 p.m. and the 911 call being made "an utter disregard of the health of this player, and we are extraordinarily concerned that the coaches did not react appropriately to his injury."

Other **** pulled by this coaching staff that the school looked the other way on:

Public abuse and humiliation:

• A player holding a meal while in a meeting had the meal slapped out of his hands in front of the team.

• A player whom coaches wanted to lose weight was forced to eat candy bars as he was made to watch teammates working out.

• Players are routinely the targets of obscenity-laced epithets meant to mock their masculinity when they are unable to complete a workout or weight lift, for example.

• One player was belittled verbally after passing out during a drill. (So they almost had TWO players die)

• A player said he was forced to overeat or eat to the point of vomiting.

• Former Maryland defensive lineman Malik Jones, who transferred after last season from Maryland to Toledo, said he had an altercation with Durkin after Durkin took exception to Jones' smiling during a team meeting. Durkin and Jones went to another room and, according to Jones, Durkin accused him of "bad-mouthing the program" and encouraged him to leave.

• "[Strength and Conditioning Coach Rick Court]'s just a ball of testosterone all the time," one current player said. "He's really in your face. He'll call you [expletives], he'll challenge you in the weight room. He'll put more weight on the bar than you can do, ever done in your life, and expect you to do it multiple times. He'll single people out he doesn't like, which is a common practice here. Guys are run off. They'll have them do specific finishes at the end and do harder workouts or more workouts just to make their lives miserable here."

• Ventura said, "[The coaching staff] actually called some players 'thieves' for being on scholarship and not being very good."

Violence and Intimidation:

• Small weights and other objects were thrown in the direction of players when Court was angry.

• The current players said they had talked with multiple players who [...] feared repercussions if they talked publicly.

• A second former staffer said that while he has seen and heard coaches curse at players, he'd never been on another coaching staff with this kind of philosophy. "The language is profane, and it's demeaning at times," he said. "When you're characterizing people in such derogatory and demeaning terms, [...] it's rough to watch and see because if it was your son, you wouldn't want anybody talking to your son that way."

• Jones said. "Push to the extreme? That was an everyday thing. I've seen [Court] get physical with guys sometimes, throw objects at guys sometimes, small weights, anything he had in his hand at the time."

• Another former player alleged the staff made an injured player do a tug-of-war competition against the whole defensive back unit (This is about 10 other players teaming up against one injured one): "They made him do it with one hand," he said. "Coach Court called him a p---- after he didn't win. One [player] was doing a tug-of-war ... and he passed out. ... I saw his body slowly giving away, and the strength coach was like, 'Keep pulling, keep pulling!' ... He collapsed on the ground. He looked at him like, 'You quit on the team.' It was really barbaric."

• "As soon as you sit out a run, you feel a little dizzy or light-headed, you're not in Champions Club anymore," a former player said. (The Champions Club is a "club" of the players on the team who were "Champions," assigned by the coaching staff)

• When a third party investigating was finally brought on, the players who requested to be interviewed by the investigation were stripped of their anonymity, and the interviews took place directly in front of the Head Coach's office.

Testimonials:

• "We had a kid die. ... It took all summer for us to even get a third-party investigation to meet with, and the timing [of those interviews] is absolutely horrendous," [An anonymous] player said. "This is a huge problem at Maryland."

• A former Maryland staff member said: "I would never, ever, ever allow my child to be coached there."

• A former staff member said "verbal personal attacks on kids" occurred so often that everyone became numb to them.

• "We always talked about family, but whose family talks to you like that, calls you a p---y b----?" a third former staffer said. "There are so many instances."

• "If a kid would stop or go on the ground, [Court] and the medical staff would try to drag players up and get them to run after they'd already reached their limit. They definitely bullied us to make sure we kept on going."

So, have they changed their ways since this kid died?

NO!

Shortly before McNair's death and while he remained hospitalized, Maryland coaches held a team meeting during which, according to sources, players criticized the methods used by Court and Durkin. Durkin was initially receptive to their concerns, sources said. Players and other team sources said voluntary workouts in late June and July, after McNair's death, lessened in intensity. But when Maryland opened preseason training camp Aug. 3, the workouts and overall climate around the program largely returned to how they were before McNair's death, the sources said. Since the middle of this week (read: since ESPN sent them a copy of this expose and asked for comment), however, there has been more attention paid to players who show fatigue or distress.

Another testimonial about their lack of change:

• "Now that we get to camp, it just seems like regular business," a current player said. "That's when I started to get upset because I feel like nothing's really changed. Have these guys learned their lesson?"

They kill a kid with their abuse, and then go right back into their old habits within 2 months.

**** The University of Maryland. **** those coaches.

Don't let them off the hook because they did one thing to honor a kid they killed, and didn't change their ways until the public was going to know about it.

Throw them in prison.

[RonnieFranchise]

i’ll believe this business of the current players being concerned when they transfer en masse. As a parent of a college student if he confirmed all this is true I’d have pulled him already.

Instead team toxic culture sac’d up yesterday and beat a superior but perpetually underperforming Texas team for a second year in a row.

Should just fire Durkin now, Canada seems to be doing a better job anyway although if Durkin goes IMO they should all go. He didn’t do it on his own.

[Ad@m]

Typical Nick Saban

https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsCenter ... hoo.com%2F

[Orlando Penguin]

Typical Nick Saban

https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsCenter ... hoo.com%2F

The media needs to get the F off Saban and his QB decision. No one needs to know anything about how he runs his program. He's handling this the right way and if it comes off like it did last night, then so be it.

[Freddy Rumsen]

Agreed. Saban is right.

After yesterday's games I'd say the big guys, Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson all looked like they were supposed to.

The overhyped teams were overhyped (Washington, Auburn, Texas, Florida Atlantic, Arizona, Michigan).

West Virginia is going to be good and Will Grier may be a legit Heisman guy.

[Orlando Penguin]

Agreed. Saban is right.

After yesterday's games I'd say the big guys, Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson all looked like they were supposed to.

The overhyped teams were overhyped (Washington, Auburn, Texas, Florida Atlantic, Arizona, Michigan).

West Virginia is going to be good and Will Grier may be a legit Heisman guy.

Not sure if you caught any of that Washington-Auburn game but Washington found every way to self-destruct in the red zone. They had a touchdown called back due to a pick play and then yakked the ensuing FG. Next possession, the QB lost a fumble inside the 15. Next possession, they banked in a FG (lots of confidence in this kicker). Washington moved the ball pretty well against that Auburn defense but just came up empty.

I'll agree with you on the other schlubs. Texas had no answer for the Twerps mobility in the first half and then came out flat after the rain delay. Arizona's scheme doesn't fit the talents of Tate. He's not a pocket passer and it showed last night (also would help if they had any sort of running back threat).

One team to keep an eye on, especially if you're a gambler -- Hawaii. New coach, new system (up-tempo run & shoot a la June Jones), and a QB that is incredibly adept at running it. They still don't have a dependable 4-quarter defense, which means the OVER should be in play until Vegas decides it wants to adjust (OVER 61 1/2 last night was like taking candy from a baby).