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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:51 pm

Not all HVAC units have one. Here's an article from Trane https://www.trane.com/content/dam/Trane ... n_0905.pdf

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Postby mac5155 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:57 pm

Dehumidifier? I don't know of any other "air dryer".
@robbiestoupe mentioned the words "air dryer" and "dessicant".

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:57 pm

Okay, yeah, we're talking about a dehumidifier. I thought you meant something else.

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Postby mac5155 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:58 pm

sorry missed your post RT.

So I likely don't have one.

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:58 pm

Dehumidifier? I don't know of any other "air dryer".
@robbiestoupe mentioned the words "air dryer" and "dessicant".
I've never heard anyone actually call the device an 'air dryer', is all.

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:31 pm

Dehumidifier? I don't know of any other "air dryer".
@robbiestoupe mentioned the words "air dryer" and "dessicant".
I've never heard anyone actually call the device an 'air dryer', is all.
It's different than a dehumidifier. It's moot at this point, but much of the work I do at my job involves drying air. Refrigerators and air compressors are notorious for providing wet air.

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:36 pm

Gotcha. :thumb:

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Postby mac5155 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:48 pm

So, in summary - does(should) my AC/air handler have one of these or no ? :lol:

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:07 pm

Seems like it's an optional thing, so it's hard to tell. Do you have an air humidifier? I have one that I use during the winter to keep the air from becoming too dry. Maybe yours was on during the summer?

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Postby mac5155 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:19 pm

I definitely do not have a humidifier nor a dehumidifier.

I just have a humid house..

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:05 pm

I am thinking a winter project may be to start and do some of my basement, little by little. First step is obviously coming up with a plan and all that jazz. Then framing and insulation. Question: I have a block wall foundation, with insulation on the exterior. Is there any reason I should also insulate the interior?

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:09 pm

Insulation is cheap, and unless you have a high R value on the current insulation, I’d certainly add more. Do it right the first time.

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:12 pm

I was leaning that way for sure. Seems that polystyrene foam board is the unanimous decision, if not spray foam. Then do horizontal furring strips, and then vertical on top of that.

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Postby CBear3 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:45 pm

I am thinking a winter project may be to start and do some of my basement, little by little. First step is obviously coming up with a plan and all that jazz. Then framing and insulation. Question: I have a block wall foundation, with insulation on the exterior. Is there any reason I should also insulate the interior?
This is where I am. The entire basement is in contact with the ground. Last year when we had stretches with highs around zero it got down to the fifties in the basement, but that was without any carpet & padding insulating from the bottom, sheetrock, or any ducting being open.
I'm well under 20% being above grade so I don't have to insulate for code, it's just about efficiency versus $$

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Postby robbiestoupe » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:47 pm

I'm in the same boat as you mac, but I probably won't start my basement for another few years. I would think a vapor barrier would also be a must in order to cut down on wet basement syndrome.

Are you planning on putting a bathroom in the basement, and if so, do you have plumbing set up for it? That's my biggest hurdle right now. In order to get the drains in for the toilet, shower and sink, I'm going to have to break into the concrete. Not too eager to get that started.

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Postby CBear3 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:49 pm

I'm in the same boat as you mac, but I probably won't start my basement for another few years. I would think a vapor barrier would also be a must in order to cut down on wet basement syndrome.

Are you planning on putting a bathroom in the basement, and if so, do you have plumbing set up for it? That's my biggest hurdle right now. In order to get the drains in for the toilet, shower and sink, I'm going to have to break into the concrete. Not too eager to get that started.
They stubbed mine, but the shower cutout is a foot off so I've got to extend it. That gives me nightmares.

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:23 pm

Yeah my stuff is stubbed in too but they were kind enough to put the water main inlet right where the toilet rough drain is. So I'm probably gonna have to move something.

I have a waterproof coating on the outside of the foundation with a 20 year warranty.

I'm like probably 90% underground. If not more.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:31 pm

Spray foam insulation is superior to all others, but man is it expensive. Foam board is where I’d be going, as well.

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Postby Willie Kool » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:26 pm

@mac5155 I hadn't thought about it until you started talking about finishing your basement, but maybe your humidity problem is due to the new concrete floor down there? When was it poured?

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:30 pm

I’d be shocked if that were the cause. They can’t frame until around a week later, give or take, and it should be fully cured after 3-4 weeks. He’d likely see actual condensation on the floor or in the corners if there was a moisture problem, IMO.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:34 pm

In other news, I’m looking for a paving contractor to replace my asphalt driveway in the spring. Found one that looked decent and had good reviews, then I saw the giant banner at the top of their site: “OUR BOSS IS JESUS CHRIST!”

I ain’t hiring no ****’ carpenter to replace my driveway, you fools.

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Postby mac5155 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:37 pm

@mac5155 I hadn't thought about it until you started talking about finishing your basement, but maybe your humidity problem is due to the new concrete floor down there? When was it poured?
Floor was probably poured a year ago. My Facebook memories just showed the framing complete today. I was thinking it may be plaster curing? It cured for 2 weeks and we painted sometime in late February. Primed with Loxon and top coat with Cashmere, both sherwin williams products.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:45 pm

You’re right, I was thinking of curing. Drying is three months or so, IIRC.

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Postby Willie Kool » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:46 pm

I’d be shocked if that were the cause. They can’t frame until around a week later, give or take, and it should be fully cured after 3-4 weeks.
Curing ≠ drying.

Curing is a chemical reaction that leads to concrete reaching it's intended strength, and ideally it is achieved with the surface being kept wet for the entire curing time.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:47 pm

Okay, I assume you deleted your original post and reposted it after I replied. :)

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