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Postby slappybrown » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:10 pm

That blows big time, this defense works if and only if you get pressure with the front four and specifically the ends and that dude fit the bill

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:26 pm

Eh, it sucks but at the same time I feel like half of the past two classes have been defensive linemen.

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Postby Stoosh » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:15 am

Fantastic read by Brian Batko on the 2008 Sun Bowl, probably one of the worst bowl games ever played in college football's modern era.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pit ... 1812200121

Outside of the setting of Sun Bowl Stadium (one of the more unique backdrops in college football, in my opinion), I remember nothing else from the game outside of the score. I forgot Pinkston didn't play and I also forgot how much I couldn't stand Matt Cavanaugh. In fact, wow, it really feels like we're reliving the Matt Cavanaugh nightmare with Shawn Watson.

That and they really don't like Chase Clowser.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:29 am

Worst game I've ever witnessed with the eyeballs in my face. Yes there have been bigger heartbreaks, disasters, and disappointments, but this game was pure ****. And yes, Watson is Cavanaugh 2.0, yet somehow seems even less competent.

Edit: I love that even Wanny is confused by his offensive game plan, which he stuck with for the hell of it I guess.

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Postby Stoosh » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:48 pm

Worst game I've ever witnessed with the eyeballs in my face. Yes there have been bigger heartbreaks, disasters, and disappointments, but this game was pure ****. And yes, Watson is Cavanaugh 2.0, yet somehow seems even less competent.

Edit: I love that even Wanny is confused by his offensive game plan, which he stuck with for the hell of it I guess.
That was also the year that Pitt to lost to Rutgers 54-34 on what became Mike Teel Career Day. Teel, who was mostly awful, ended up throwing for 361 yards and 6 TDs because Wanny & Bennett's defensive scheme was built on shutting down Rutgers's almost-nonexistent rushing offense. The gameplan left Kenny Britt, Tim Brown, and Tiquan Underwood in one-on-one matchups almost the entire game. Everyone in the stadium with the exception of Wannstedt and Bennett knew going into that game that Rutgers couldn't run and that their biggest threats were those three receivers.

I watched that game at a bar with a bunch of friends and I never wanted to put my fist through my radio more than when I heard Wanny discuss that strategy in the post-game press conference on the way home.

I loved Wanny but I'm pretty sure that for 50-60% of his Pitt tenure, he was either blissfully unaware or entirely confused by what was happening on gamedays.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:40 am

Everyone needs to read batkos article about the 3-0 sun bowl

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:17 am

I've erased that day from my memory so no thanks

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Postby skullman80 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:43 am

I got a paragraph in and quit.

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Postby slappybrown » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:24 am

I didn’t watch that game because I was still mad about Cinci. I also have never watched the “Armed Forces Bowl” game against “Houston” which imo was a collective delusion and never happened.

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:13 pm

I didn’t watch that game because I was still mad about Cinci. I also have never watched the “Armed Forces Bowl” game against “Houston” which imo was a collective delusion and never happened.
Sounds like that would have been an interesting game if it actually happened

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:31 pm

I remember following the military bowl on the computer while i was at work. I was like “oh neat we are winning big” then i hit refresh after doing ~45 minutes of work and pitt was losing. It was one of those things that made the impending departure of chryst a little more digestible.

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:46 pm

I remember following the military bowl on the computer while i was at work. I was like “oh neat we are winning big” then i hit refresh after doing ~45 minutes of work and pitt was losing. It was one of those things that made the impending departure of chryst a little more digestible.
We were never winning big in the military bowl

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:48 pm

I’m getting my disasterous bowl games mixed up. I was referring to this other war-related bowl game:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Ar ... _(January)

The military bowl was just an ass kicking. Pitt didn’t show up for that game at all.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:50 pm

JP Holtz had 3 catches and a TD in the “armed forces bowl”

I MISS YOU JP HOLTZ

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:54 pm

Since i’m On a roll here, i’m Gonna get yinzer here and ask why pitt stopped recruiting white guy tight ends from the wpial? We had a pretty epic run of tight ends that ranged from OK to great that met a lot of yinzer criteria- Steve buches, Erik gill, Pelusi, mr. wonderful, Holtz, that guy from franklin, pa, Dickerson (not white, but that is ok), etc.

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:01 pm

I’m getting my disasterous bowl games mixed up. I was referring to this other war-related bowl game:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Ar ... _(January)

The military bowl was just an ass kicking. Pitt didn’t show up for that game at all.
Ah gotcha. I attended that one. Henderson ran the kick back and things were looking good. Then Keenan Reynolds just systematically destroyed Pitt

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:16 pm

Paris Ford not currently here in El Paso with the team.
https://twitter.com/RichieWalsh/status/ ... 02562?s=19

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Postby Stoosh » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:32 pm

Batko provided a little more info/speculation on Ford's absence via Twitter as well. Said he's going to ask Narduzzi about it when practice ends and the coach meets with the media. Someone tweeted to Batko wondering if this was a "left the team/will transfer" situation. Batko responded by saying he didn't think so, at least not based off things he's heard there but he would wait to see what Narduzzi says.

Filtering through the PL tire fire that has already broken out on the board about this, there IS some speculation that his absence could be academic-eligibility related.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:37 pm

that is unfortunate and I'm not sure how pitt is going to react to losing his contributions during the 2-4 times he actually appears on the field per game

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:52 pm

He's first-team All-Twitter though...

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Postby Stoosh » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:01 pm

that is unfortunate and I'm not sure how pitt is going to react to losing his contributions during the 2-4 times he actually appears on the field per game
This is kind of where I'm at with it, too.

Just yesterday, Alan Saunders posted an article that discussed Ford's position switches. move to corner was initially a move made to hopefully get him on the field sooner. Pinnock was injured to start the year and the hope was that Ford would push Motley, Mathis and Jackson for playing time. Instead, he fell behind all three and was also bypassed by Therran Coleman and (true freshman) Marquis Williams in some of those expanded DB sets. Jackson locked down one CB position and when Pinnock got healthy, he quickly bumped Motley from other starting CB slot.

Ford has obviously struggled with the defense. I think there are some legitimate complaints about the things this scheme sometimes asks the safeties to do, but Hamlin - recruited as a corner - has picked it up. Stocker and Campbell have also picked it up, to varying degrees of success.

I hope he sticks around and fulfills his potential, because he had ridiculous potential and also seemed genuinely excited to be here. If not, best of luck to him wherever he lands.

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Postby Stoosh » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:33 pm

From Brian Batko on Twitter:

"Pat Narduzzi says defensive backs Paris Ford (personal reasons) and Bricen Garner (disciplinary) are the only two players who did not make the trip to El Paso. Added they could still be here later in the week and are with the program."

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:47 am

so pitt is playing in a bowl game today @ 2:00

this game is probably more important to the program than the first few bowl games on the nard dog era. actually, this game might be more important to the program than any bowl since the fiesta bowl. and really, the outcome of this game is more important than the outcome of the fiesta bowl. you have to be happy with how the conference schedule played out, and no one should diminish a coastal championship. but 7-7 with a lot of blowout losses is not a good look and will probably result in a lot of people looking past the progress the program has made.

I hope pickett doesn't stink.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:25 am

7-7 is inevitable. Whether it’s Pickett sucking, offensive line being terrible, defense forgetting what they’re doing, stupid mistakes, bad turnovers, whatever, etc., 7-7 is inevitable.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:39 am

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