2018 Pittsburgh Pirates In-Season Thread

Postby **Troy Loney** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:51 am

The new wrinkle there is that Frazier has come back a different player and could potentially play his way into the mix for the 2B job.

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:16 am

frazier's line drive rate is 43% since he has been recalled from the minors. he is hitting 463. prior to the demotion, his rate was 14.8%

for perspective, votto leads the league for the season with a line drive rate of 32.7.

conclusion: the man is raking.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:29 am

Damn. The Giants are paying Melancon a **** ton of money for a non-closer.

Postby **willeyeam** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:40 am

frazier's line drive rate is 43% since he has been recalled from the minors. he is hitting 463. prior to the demotion, his rate was 14.8%

for perspective, votto leads the league for the season with a line drive rate of 32.7.

conclusion: the man is raking.

conclusion: it's not going to keep happening.

Frazier is what he is, he can be a solid contact hitter when he is on. That's best case. Worst case, he's useless because he has 0 power. He's Alex Presley 2.0 and thinking of him as ever being a replacement for a starter is a bad idea

Postby **Troy Loney** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:15 pm

Joe Block just tweeted out the NL standings from July 8. Pirates have the best record at 20-8 and a run differential of 143-95, which is both the most runs scored and the fewest runs allowed. NL is bolded because the Red Sox are so much better than everyone, so I'm sure they're probably better in all these categories.

Sustainability is obviously in question, and if I were to look for the key factors, I would look at how Dickerson continues performing in the leadoff spot in the order. I think there is an obvious trickle down effect from his success in the leadoff position in the order. I think Williams is another important piece to that, if he is to continue being reliable, that has downstream effects and to me gives them three reliable SPs right now with Taillon and Musgrove, and can easily move to four if Archer gets acclimated.

Postby **Kovyfalcon27** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:36 pm

Nothing against Clay Holmes, but are any other teams in playoff contention randomly pitching a minor leaguer to “give the rotation a rest”??? Seems like an even dumber thing to do with as well as the rotation has been pitching lately.

Postby **NailedPenguin** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:42 pm

And they're off Monday. What on Earth??

Postby **FistOfCaufield** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:50 pm

And they're off Monday. What on Earth??

It’s over thinking and reeks of “look how smart I am” nonsense that infects managers of this era.

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:07 pm

Every game counts

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:12 pm

Hurdle is a **** idiot who thinks he’s smart. That’s well established at this point. Dude should get torn a new one for this game.

Postby **Kovyfalcon27** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:26 pm

Bullpen gonna throw 6 innings tonight, but hey, the starters got a rest.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:30 pm

Bullpen gonna throw 6 innings tonight, but hey, the starters got a rest.

Meanwhile they used Saddler for a single inning last night in a blowout game, so I guess they don’t really have a long relief guy tonight either. Or at least not one who is rested.

Postby **King Colby** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:32 pm

Pirates gonna make the rest playoffs?

Postby **King Colby** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:35 pm

Hurdle has got to go. Pure stupidity lately.

Postby **NailedPenguin** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:44 pm

Honest question. Is this solely Clint's call, or could Neal tell him to no, he's not making a call up?

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:51 pm

Also worth noting that pushing the rotation back with the Holmes start means that neither Taillon not Archer will face the Cubs next week. So hooray for that.

Postby **NailedPenguin** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:14 am

"Miss me yet?"

Postby **Kovyfalcon27** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:58 am

Just woke up and saw the final score and I’m even more pissed now. DFA Hurdle.

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:29 am

I listened to the first inning and it was 2-0 before an out was recorded and I went to sleep.

What a dingo.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:18 am

Just woke up and saw the final score and I’m even more pissed now. DFA Hurdle.

That’s how I was. Then I learned that Hurdle let Saddler bat twice with RISP and now I’m even more pissed that before. Dude is a damn idiot.

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:40 am

Who cares if they lost? The starters have gotten an extra day of rest and kela, Santana, and Vazquez didn’t have to pitch? I consider it a win any time athletes in the prime of the career do not have to play in games that have a strong influence on a team’s ability to make the postseason.

Postby **dodint** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:41 pm

Who cares if they lost?

Perfect.

Postby **willeyeam** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:39 am

Is Trevor Williams.. good?

Postby **MrKennethTKangaroo** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:06 am

I still say no even tho he is largely responsible for 7 shutouts this season

Postby **willeyeam** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:31 am

It makes me wonder, is there any value in being a 4 ERA pitcher, but being either dominant or letting up 6 runs in 4 innings with no in between? As opposed to going 7 innings and letting up 3 or 4 each time.. or less value?

I think the former guarantees a win every other time out, with a very small chance on the off nights. And the steady eddy latter option give you a coin flip each time. Wonder of there's some advanced stats out there. Probably ends up even in the end.

Tldr Trevor Williams is either Nolan Ryan or John Van Benschoten