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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:21 pm

Yeah, it's 6+ years old. Time for it to go.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:25 pm

See, I’m hesitant to buy a new one because we get massive discounts through work, but you are kind of in your own when buying. I can’t go into a Best Buy and be like sell me a laptop

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:27 pm

Share some links in this thread, we'll tell you which one to buy.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:33 pm

Share some links in this thread, we'll tell you which one to buy.
This.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:34 pm

Which brand should I start with? They have a bunch. Samsung. Dell. Levovo. HP.

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Postby Silentom » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:35 pm

I'm an ASUS fan.

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Postby iamjs » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:35 pm

massive bestbuy discounts still means you probably paying $700 for a laptop.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:37 pm

Which brand should I start with? They have a bunch. Samsung. Dell. Levovo. HP.
Depends on what you’ll use this for. Strictly bidness? Lenovo makes decent stuff. Personal laptop? I love my wife’s HP ENVY, but am also an ASUS fan. Dell can get ****, and I haven’t really messed with any Samsung stuff.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:40 pm

I basically need it so I can remote into my work computer and be fast as **** with the internet. Nothing else.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:44 pm

HP, Lenovo and ASUS can do that just fine. If you’ve got a list of discounted gear, post the info here. Or if you simply get a discount with a particular vendor, let us know which. Also need a budget.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:45 pm

HP NOTEBOOK - 15-BW080NR

I can get that for $349

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:52 pm

That’s bare bottom, dated hardware. Didn’t you buy the ASUS router I suggested not too long ago? If so, make sure anything that you buy has an 802.11ac wireless card in it.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:57 pm

What should I look for? Processor? RAM? Memory?

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:03 pm

If you’re not doing anything processor intensive, like encoding video or anything, then it doesn’t matter terribly much. Anything with at least 4GB of memory (preferably 6-8GB) and Windows 10 64-bit. If you’re going to spend money on one component, it has to be the hard drive. An SSD drive is lightning fast, and can make up for slower processors.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:07 pm

Ok. I built my own.

HP Pavilion Laptop - 15t touch
Windows 10 Home 64
Intel® Core™ i5-8250U (1.6 GHz, up to 3.4 GHz, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)+Intel® UHD Graphics 620
8 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)
15.6" diagonal HD SVA BrightView WLED-backlit (1366 x 768)
1 TB 5400 rpm SATA; 128 GB M.2 SSD
No Optane
Office Software Trial
Security Software Trial
3-cell, 41 Wh Lithium-ion prismatic Battery
DVD Writer
Full-size island-style keyboard(Natural Silver)
HP Wide Vision HD Camera with dual array digital microphone (Mineral Silver)
Intel® 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 Combo

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:11 pm

That doesn’t sound too bad. Small battery, so don’t expect it to last long unplugged. The screen resolution is a little low, too. Do you just get a percentage discount on any HP gear? If so, what’s your budget for this? I’d venture a guess that I can build something better for around the same coin.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:13 pm

This worked out to be $650. I don't want to go much over that because I don't use it for anything other than the remote.

The battery doesn't matter because I'm at a desk at home so it is permanently plugged in.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:16 pm

I wonder if it's worthwhile to replace that HDD with a SSD. I see it has a M2 SSD, but if you get one large(r) SSD that might be better for battery life.

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Postby iamjs » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:49 pm

Do you need something with a DVD writer?

I'm seconding the suggestion of going with an SSD. A 5400 RPM SATA drive is probably your slowest option, and the jump to SSD alone is like night and day.

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Postby Silentom » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:56 pm

How well will it stream porn?

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:03 pm

Do you need something with a DVD writer?

I'm seconding the suggestion of going with an SSD. A 5400 RPM SATA drive is probably your slowest option, and the jump to SSD alone is like night and day.
No. It was a default I couldn’t remove.

Explain the SSD like I am 8 years old

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:17 pm

SSD drives do not have moving parts and are much faster than regular mechanical hard drives. You'll be able to boot to desktop in ten seconds. Similar storage as what you have in your phone, tablet, or thumb drive. It uses a lot less power because it doesn't have moving parts.

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Postby meow » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:00 pm

So SSD sounds like a good idea

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:36 pm

An SSD should be mandatory. Don’t even consider another laptop that doesn’t have one.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:39 am

Ok. I built my own.

HP Pavilion Laptop - 15t touch
Windows 10 Home 64
Intel® Core™ i5-8250U (1.6 GHz, up to 3.4 GHz, 6 MB cache, 4 cores)+Intel® UHD Graphics 620
8 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)
15.6" diagonal HD SVA BrightView WLED-backlit (1366 x 768)
1 TB 5400 rpm SATA; 128 GB M.2 SSD
No Optane
Office Software Trial
Security Software Trial
3-cell, 41 Wh Lithium-ion prismatic Battery
DVD Writer
Full-size island-style keyboard(Natural Silver)
HP Wide Vision HD Camera with dual array digital microphone (Mineral Silver)
Intel® 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 Combo
It actually looks like this is probably your best bet from HP at your price point. The only thing I don't particularly like about this model is the screen. I'd personally opt for the IPS 1920x1080 screen, but it's an extra $100.

Alternatively, if you wanted to go the ASUS route, you could get that upgraded screen and pay less than the HP with the ASUS VivoBook F510UA. It has virtually the same hardware otherwise, but here are some noticeable differences that may or may not matter to you:
  • The HP comes with a full numeric keyboard on the right side, whereas the ASUS does not
  • The ASUS does not come with a backlit keyboard, but it's an option on the HP
  • The ASUS comes with the IPS 1920x1080 screen, but it's a $100 option on the HP
  • The ASUS has a fingerprint reader (for Windows Hello) embedded in the trackpad
  • The HP comes with a DVD writer, whereas the ASUS has no optical drive
  • The webcam in the ASUS is apparently hot garbage based on what I read
  • I found reviews for both saying that the keyboard was a little bouncy
Between the two, I'd personally opt for the ASUS in this price range. You get more bang for your buck, and the knocks on it don't matter to me. I'd recommend reading reviews for both before you decide, though.

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