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Postby dodint » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:27 am

My PC has three or four of them.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:21 am

Onboard sound is fine for most users unless you're a musician or audiophile. I had a Soundblaster Audigy back in the day, which was almost required for some of the games I played. Soundcard took cycles off of the processor, which made the game run more smoothly. We're talking 2004 or 2005 though. Audio codecs and onboard sound are pretty robust now compared to back then.

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Postby dodint » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:46 am

Found this old post of mine:
The end state of the project is actually:
Sim Sound --> Rift Headset
Sim Telemetry 1 --> Sound Card 1 to transducer.
Sim Telemetry 2 --> Sound Card 2 to additional transducers.
PC Sound --> Sound Card to PC speakers.
So two aftermarket cards, onboard sound which is actually a card, and HDMI sound processing.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:50 am

Source of the post Onboard sound is fine for most users unless you're a musician or audiophile.
This. dodint has a very special use case.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:51 am

*angelic choir sound*
I did the Tim Taylor grunt when I was finished and my wife now thinks I'm weird. :lol:

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Postby dodint » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:53 am

Funny thing is I set that racing simulation rig up in March of 2020 and then we promptly moved. It's in pieces in my basement. So it functioned for about two weeks before being mothballed. And now this desktop has all those audio cards in it. Real pain in the ass when I want to switch between speakers and headset as I have to remember which card is which on the list. :lol:

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:23 pm

The only negative I have found with these components is the ASUS BIOS - I really don't like it at all. I used to run Gigabyte and ASUS back in the day, and then switched to ASRock, which I loved. ASUS just crams everything in together, it's finicky, etc. But it's not a big deal, since that's usually a one and done config.

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Postby faftorial » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:37 pm

Found this old post of mine:
The end state of the project is actually:
Sim Sound --> Rift Headset
Sim Telemetry 1 --> Sound Card 1 to transducer.
Sim Telemetry 2 --> Sound Card 2 to additional transducers.
PC Sound --> Sound Card to PC speakers.
So two aftermarket cards, onboard sound which is actually a card, and HDMI sound processing.
Why did you need so many sound sources simultaneously? Were you wanting multiple dedicated streams of audio?

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:58 am

@nocera: Do you use Photoshop 2021? I'm running 22.4.1, and this build is noticeably slower than the 2019 and 2020 builds, especially at startup. I know you're probably running it on a Mac if so, but I've seen complaints about this on both sides.

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Postby nocera » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:43 am

@nocera: Do you use Photoshop 2021? I'm running 22.4.1, and this build is noticeably slower than the 2019 and 2020 builds, especially at startup. I know you're probably running it on a Mac if so, but I've seen complaints about this on both sides.
I do but I have not noticed any slowdown on my end, though to be fair I'm in the video programs more than PS. Seems fine for me except that Premiere is a bit more unstable than I would like. I've noticed an increase in crashing with 21.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:56 am

Yeah, Adobe is going in the wrong direction with this stuff, it seems. I'm actually going to download and install GIMP now to compare it. If some of the advanced tools - like the healing features - work well, I may just cut Photoshop loose.

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Postby nocera » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:00 am

Gimp always felt like a poor man's photoshop but I haven't used it in years so it may be more advanced now. I just upgraded my work laptop and decided to stick with the intel processor because Adobe still hasn't released the creative suite for M1. It's in beta and apparently a **** mess.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:05 am

Yeah, just installed it and the interface is trash. Already ripping it out.

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Postby nocera » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:08 am

You can always go back to version 22.4.2 right? Or is this not one of those "legal" versions?

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:12 am

I can go to any version. 22.x in general is ****, so I'd be forced to move to a 2020 build.

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Postby mikey » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:43 pm

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/5/22611 ... cs-gpu-cpu

When this says this, does that mean it's taking the place of a graphics card, so to speak...? I sometimes edit video on my PC, sometimes I have to capture my screen and edit that video...would this really enhance my ability to any noteworthy degree (from, say, like a Lenovo ThinkPad with an i7 processor) in this arena...? I am not a gamer at all.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:48 pm

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/5/22611 ... cs-gpu-cpu

When this says this, does that mean it's taking the place of a graphics card, so to speak...? I sometimes edit video on my PC, sometimes I have to capture my screen and edit that video...would this really enhance my ability to any noteworthy degree (from, say, like a Lenovo ThinkPad with an i7 processor) in this arena...? I am not a gamer at all.
Yes, it means you don’t have to buy a separate graphics card. Depending on how much video editing you actually do, you may not need a dedicated video card. I’d bet you would be fine using one of these for your every day computer.

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Postby mikey » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:50 pm

That's what I vaguely thought, thanks :thumb:

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:54 pm

Also, I’m a huge fan of AMD after this latest build. Wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them over Intel at this point.

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Postby faftorial » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:12 pm

Also, I’m a huge fan of AMD after this latest build. Wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them over Intel at this point.
I'm very happy with my new laptop with AMD and it has onboard graphics. I haven't had separate graphics card in a laptop in over 10 years now (although I don't play games or do video processing). And that was an early Chinese Thinkpad where the solder on the graphics card was cracking and bricking the laptop. People were putting them in the oven to try to melt the solder enough to fix the issue and some had luck.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:22 pm

Also, I’m a huge fan of AMD after this latest build. Wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them over Intel at this point.
I'm very happy with my new laptop with AMD and it has onboard graphics. I haven't had separate graphics card in a laptop in over 10 years now (although I don't play games or do video processing). And that was an early Chinese Thinkpad where the solder on the graphics card was cracking and bricking the laptop. People were putting them in the oven to try to melt the solder enough to fix the issue and some had luck.
That’s actually how some people were attempting to fix their busted Bluetooth modules in the 3rd gen Acura TLs. Always ever ended up being a temporary fix, though.

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Postby faftorial » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:26 pm

Also, I’m a huge fan of AMD after this latest build. Wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them over Intel at this point.
I'm very happy with my new laptop with AMD and it has onboard graphics. I haven't had separate graphics card in a laptop in over 10 years now (although I don't play games or do video processing). And that was an early Chinese Thinkpad where the solder on the graphics card was cracking and bricking the laptop. People were putting them in the oven to try to melt the solder enough to fix the issue and some had luck.
That’s actually how some people were attempting to fix their busted Bluetooth modules in the 3rd gen Acura TLs. Always ever ended up being a temporary fix, though.
I do remember people saying it would happen again. Lenovo did nothing unless you were still under warranty.

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Postby faftorial » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:43 am

NTP, have you ever used Cisco Umbrella? We just go notified that cisco anyconnect with install this on our laptops. From what I can tell, it's used to block websites and track all your web requests. I don't use my work computer to do anything personal but it seems pretty intrusive to me.

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:59 am

NTP, have you ever used Cisco Umbrella? We just go notified that cisco anyconnect with install this on our laptops. From what I can tell, it's used to block websites and track all your web requests. I don't use my work computer to do anything personal but it seems pretty intrusive to me.
We don't use Umbrella, no. It looks like it's just acting as a proxy for all network traffic, so I'd probably assume that all traffic will be logged in that case.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:17 am

My dad has a 6 year old Alienware 15 R2, and loves it. The problem is that it's on its second battery, which no longer charges. Rather than replacing another battery, I picked him out a brand new Acer laptop. Ryzen 5 4500U, 8GB RAM, super fast. Really nice laptop, and one I'd consider buying for myself. So I configure it for him, migrate his data, etc. Spent an entire day working on it.

He spent two days using it, and hates the keyboard. I just boxed it back up and will be dropping it off at UPS for the Amazon return. Because he "doesn't want to have to get used to a new keyboard". :lol: **** old people, man.
Fast forward 4 months. My dad is tired of his Alienware locked at like .05 GHz thanks to the battery issue, and I can't talk him into an alternative. He is blowing $1200 on a new Alienware so that he can **** surf the internet with a fancy keyboard.

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