2017-2018 Pittsburgh Pirates Off-Season Thread

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Postby columbia » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:45 pm

Crick is a big boy. Are they projecting him as a power pitcher starter?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:49 pm

Crick is a big boy. Are they projecting him as a power pitcher starter?
He was moved to the pen in AAA because he can’t hit the strike zone. Had a season with more than 9 BB/9. For his minor league career he’s at 6. Showed improvement once he moved into relief. Don’t see how he’s thought for a rotation spot.

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Postby columbia » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:51 pm

Just trying to be optimistic.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:54 pm

Just trying to be optimistic.
Don’t

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:57 pm

Just put Crick and Glasnow in the rotation all year for the lolz
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Postby slappybrown » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:58 pm

Bucs paying a portion of Cutch's salary this year. Yeesh
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Postby Factorial » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:28 pm

So, back to the field, does Marte go to center? Who is the new outfielder?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:49 pm

So, back to the field, does Marte go to center? Who is the new outfielder?
Osuna in left :pop:

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Postby meow » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:17 pm

I hope they sell 0 tickets this season

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:42 pm

Over/under on how many seasons until we are over .500 again? Just for shts and giggles I'll say 12.5.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:45 pm

So, back to the field, does Marte go to center? Who is the new outfielder?
Luplow and Frazier, hopefully meadows by June. Alsp, luplow could own emerge as the starter.

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Postby Morkle » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:55 pm

The BEST interest you guys. Nobody asked where that' 20+ million is getting re-invested into the team this year. Lame.

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Postby Morkle » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:57 pm

I wish just once a reporter would give the hand jerk off motion as they're speaking.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:59 pm

2015 Wild Card game roster....

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:01 pm

I like Luplow but the only thing Meadows is going to be doing by June is nursing a bum hamstring. Maybe two.

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Postby MR25 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:12 pm

Clownshoes organization

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Postby columbia » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:16 pm

Might as well trade Mercer, Cervelli and Harrison asap.

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Postby Stoosh » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:21 pm

Lackey's Twitter rant and Gentille's article in the P-G are both good summaries of how I feel about all of this.

I very much remember going to see Cutch play in person for the first time. I started following the Bucs as a fan and regularly going to games in 1997, and McCutchen was the first player I remember seeing in a Pirates uniform that looked the part of an elite player (I never saw Bonds play regularly as a Pirate). Giles was good. Jason Bay was good. But everything about the way McCutchen carried himself was different. You see an elite talent...someone who could be not just a face of a franchise, but a face of an era and you just know.

But what Kenny said here is correct.
If anyone wants to whine about cheapness, whine about the 2016 offseason when they decided to let happ walk and made no tangible improvements to the team.
This was when the Pirates lost me.

I was part of the fan base that bought this management's bullcrap. I bought tickets. My wife and I used to go to 5-10 games a year, sometimes more. We had to scale that back starting in 2013, but we went as often as we could and kept watching as the team became a contender because it was damn fun. It honestly felt like watching the same thing the Pens went through starting in 2006-07. The way the fan base responded to the emergence of the Pirates as a contender was unreal...it was more reminiscent of a raucous soccer crowd than anything. It was awesome to watch, even if just on TV.

I allowed myself to believe that at some point through this run, ownership would prove the naysayers wrong. I kept waiting for them to have their watershed "Pens acquire Hossa" moment...to make a deal or signing that screamed to everyone - especially the fan base they repeatedly asked to stay patient and loyal - that they were all-in. At some point, the patience and loyalty would be rewarded and this was the move or moves that would move the Pirates from "playoff contender" to "World Series contender".

It never happened.

Even worse, by the time they let Happ go and decided to plug that hole by cutting corners and getting Jonathan F'ing Neise, I knew it was never going to happen. What really bothers me is that they allowed that window to slam shut a lot sooner than it should have.

So I'm not really angry about the decisions the Pirates made with Cole and McCutchen, because I'm not really surprised, either. Other teams of this market size have gone through it...teams whose owners still spends more on their MLB payrolls than this one willingly does. This was always going to end with those guys being traded, just as it will end for Taillon and Bell in a few years, too.

If anything, I'm just sad. It was a really fun three-year run. It probably could've been more. It ended before it's time because ownership allowed it to, despite all assurances from Nutting and the "best management team in baseball" gave fans that it wouldn't if the fans just showed up and kept showing up.

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Postby columbia » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:24 pm

Back to talk of canning NH: he’s not the problem and never has been. He operates within his required parameters.

For the love of God, just sell the team, Mr. Nutting.

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Postby Morkle » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:40 pm

Back to talk of canning NH: he’s not the problem and never has been. He operates within his required parameters.

For the love of God, just sell the team, Mr. Nutting.
He even ***** about current way of managing a small market team not being able to hang. Then sell the team to someone who does want to hang.

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Postby Spangler » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:57 pm

I vomited at "We believe this move will make us be competitive and bring a Championship back to Pittsburgh".

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Postby NailedPenguin » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:10 pm

I miss Cutch :(

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Postby columbia » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:44 pm

MLB prospect expert weighs in on what the Pirates got in the Andrew McCutchen trade
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspo ... trade/amp/

Don’t click until Troy signs off on said analysis.


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