2017-2018 Pittsburgh Pirates Off-Season Thread

[Blue Canary]

I miss Cutch

Yep. This is hard.

I mean, not to sound like a yinzer, but the man named his firstborn son Steel!

[Blue Canary]

Back to talk of canning NH: he’s not the problem and never has been. He operates within his required parameters.

For the love of God, just sell the team, Mr. Nutting.

Amen, columbia.

[Troy Loney]

MLB prospect expert weighs in on what the Pirates got in the Andrew McCutchen trade
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspo ... trade/amp/

Don’t click until Troy signs off on said analysis.

I remember Neil’s first round of sell offs, he picked up all these busted top prospects. I unfortunately see too much similarity to that in these two trades.

[Viva la Ben]

Still need to move Harrison, Cervelli, and Mercer.

[Troy Loney]

Still need to move Harrison, Cervelli, and Mercer.

Cervelli and Mercer aren’t going to bring anything back that’s worth trading for. I think you have to hold the former and hope he proves he’s healthy so that maybe he can moved midseason

[Viva la Ben]

I’m talking salary dumps

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

Still need to move Harrison, Cervelli, and Mercer.

Cervelli and Mercer aren’t going to bring anything back that’s worth trading for. I think you have to hold the former and hope he proves he’s healthy so that maybe he can moved midseason

mercer will be traded at the deadline when newman (or tucker, if he has a breakout season, but that is unlikely) is ready.

[willeyeam]

I don't think Tucker will make it the whole way up this year

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

I don't either because that is what the pirates do.

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

His bat is flaccid and will never work in majors anyway imo. hes a gr8 athlete and plus fielder tho

[willeyeam]

His bat is flaccid and will never work in majors anyway imo. hes a gr8 athlete and plus fielder tho

Andrelton Simmons type ceiling I'd say with more speed and a little less pop

[Troy Loney]

Still need to move Harrison, Cervelli, and Mercer.

Cervelli and Mercer aren’t going to bring anything back that’s worth trading for. I think you have to hold the former and hope he proves he’s healthy so that maybe he can moved midseason

mercer will be traded at the deadline when newman (or tucker, if he has a breakout season, but that is unlikely) is ready.

I’m not sure why anyone would want Mercer past his pre arbitration salary

[Freddy Rumsen]

The best take on the McCutchen and Cole trades.

https://www.bucsdugout.com/2018/1/16/16 ... ole-trades

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

that last paragraph is good stuff

[columbia]

Rosenthal: Josh Harrison wants to be traded if Pirates not serious about contending
https://theathletic.com/213556/2018/01/ ... ontending/

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

he doesn't have to hope to get traded too hard

[Dickie Dunn]

Given the slow offseason, his boom or bust track record, and the Pirates obvious desire to dump salary I figured the best we’d get for him is a bullpen arm. Publicly stating he wants out probably reduces that return.

I’m sure Cervelli wants out as well but they would probably have to pay to make him go away.

[columbia]

he doesn't have to hope to get traded too hard

Pretty passive aggressive about it.

[DigitalGypsy66]

What a shitshow.

[Silentom]

I don't understand how fans can still be interested.

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

Given the slow offseason, his boom or bust track record, and the Pirates obvious desire to dump salary I figured the best we’d get for him is a bullpen arm. Publicly stating he wants out probably reduces that return.

I’m sure Cervelli wants out as well but they would probably have to pay to make him go away.

They are paying part of McCutchen's salary so you're probably right.

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

I don't understand how fans can still be interested.

I cant see how people are surprised or outraged that the pirates are unloading assets at a point in time when it is blatantly obvious they won't contend.

I spent plenty of time the past two years bemoaning the lack of action. At this point, with one year of cutch left and two years of cole left, it is fairly obvious this team wasn't going to contend. If the team isn't going to contend in 2018 or 2019, what is the point of keeping jhay around? What is the point of having cutch around?

[columbia]

Given the slow offseason, his boom or bust track record, and the Pirates obvious desire to dump salary I figured the best we’d get for him is a bullpen arm. Publicly stating he wants out probably reduces that return.

I’m sure Cervelli wants out as well but they would probably have to pay to make him go away.

They should trade him to the second worst organization in baseball.

[Silentom]

I'm not surprised or outraged. I just find it hard (read; impossible) to believe that anyone can follow this team an believe they will try and build a winning team.

[columbia]

I don't understand how fans can still be interested.

I cant see how people are surprised or outraged that the pirates are unloading assets at a point in time when it is blatantly obvious they won't contend.

I spent plenty of time the past two years bemoaning the lack of action. At this point, with one year of cutch left and two years of cole left, it is fairly obvious this team wasn't going to contend. If the team isn't going to contend in 2018 or 2019, what is the point of keeping jhay around? What is the point of having cutch around?

Sane people are using the trades to blow off steam, after being lectured for years about how they were actually a well run team. Making these moves are obvious, given the circumstances.