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Thats just history.

Problem you are talking about here are bad actors demonizing the term CRT and confusing it with things they don’t like being told about.

CRT should be demonized because it's racist garbage. But CRT is absolutely not the teaching of accurate history. CRT is the neo-Marxist concept (heavily flavored with postmodernist gibberish) that: (1) the fundamental underlying structure of society is race and racism; (2) every system and concept created by a dominant group (which is always white people) has been overtly or covertly structured to enforce and perpetuate the dominant status of that group, even if the people who created that system had the explicit goal of being race-neutral; (3) white people are inherently racist and benefit from "whiteness" because every system created by white people has been overtly or covertly structured to enforce and perpetuate the dominant status of white people; (4) any disparate outcomes between white people and other groups are demonstrative of this structural racism*; and (5) the solution to all of this is "equity," which does not mean equality but rather means active discrimination against white people** in order to ensure proportional representation of all races without regard to performance.***


* Except for Asians, for many racist reasons.
** And also those pesky Asians.
*** Excluding any areas, of course, where minorities already outperform whites, such as the NBA having ~75% black players.

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I guess my point is that it’s subjective and definitions change from person to person. To me, both are bad

You seem to make that point quite often.

Anyway: I'm not a big fan of either, but nationalism is certainly the more dangerous variant. I think this is a pretty good definition (which I stole from the net; sorry, I'm lazy): Patriotism refers to devotion to a particular place and involves social conditioning and personal opinions. Nationalism involves national identity and a superior feeling towards one's own nation.

Of course, nationalists tend to frame themselves as patriots. Then they storm the Capitol where they get shot by patriots.

Poop poop poop, didn't see the someone else already made the Santos joke. Carry on.

Okay.

Again, the post I was responding to was conflating factual history with crt. Crt should not be discussed below university level courses. The important item here being “theory”, critical thinking and theory is not really what we’d expect from standard secondary ed history stuff. I mean, again, to the whole nonsense around banning something that isn’t really being “taught”. As opposed to maybe some gestures or lessons from random teachers across the country that may fall under some crt type discussions.

But yeah, go off on crt (again)

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