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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:02 pm

And Edison made a lightbulb by candle light. What a f*cking hypocrite that guy was, huh???

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Postby shmenguin » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:03 pm

People were already dug into their camps with or without Fauci. While I don’t think he did a ton of good, he didn’t hurt either. His cutesy act did help for the <1% of the population that was in the middle on mask vs no mask, shut down vs no shutdown.

He was a wash which is likely better than most could do in the position he was put in.
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Postby Faftorial » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:11 pm

FEMA emergency money to be used to pay those sky high electric bills. That's a load of ****. The state of TX shouldn't be bailed out for their poor planning.

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Postby MR25 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:13 pm

At least the people who are getting charged $20k for 4 days of power don't have to pay it, I guess.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:13 pm

And Edison made a lightbulb by candle light. What a f*cking hypocrite that guy was, huh???
Because that's a comparable scenario

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Postby Faftorial » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:14 pm

At least the people who are getting charged $20k for 4 days of power don't have to pay it, I guess.
Should be state funds and then, gasp, they may have to raise taxes.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:18 pm

And Edison made a lightbulb by candle light. What a f*cking hypocrite that guy was, huh???
Because that's a comparable scenario
Non-sense post replied to with a non-sense post. Isn’t that what this thread is about?

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:20 pm

At least the people who are getting charged $20k for 4 days of power don't have to pay it, I guess.
Yeah... I heard about that story this morning. That’s terrifying. Glad they are getting the assistance they need. Texas needs to fix that, for sure.

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Postby MWB » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:21 pm

The world's preeminent infectious disease expert - which might not be replaceable even with 4 or 5 fresh bodies in his place - should die on his sword and remove himself from any role whatsoever in formulating and guiding the response by the world's most respected public health organization to a once-in-century pandemic because........ I'm sorry, why, again?

Yeah, that's a really bad idea.
This is a post from March of 2020.

It’s not hypothetical. Under Fauci, we were a world wide disgrace and lost 500,000 lives. It’s obviously on Trump, but the point is that the world’s greatest infectious disease asset did absolutely nothing meaningful during a historic crisis.

I believe, perhaps naively, that hearing true words at a nationally televised press conference at the beginning of the pandemic would have saved lives. I also believe that his silence was interpreted as support for Trump in MAGA land and in every octogenarian household. I really truly believe that if he would have spoken plainly and confronted Trump in that kind of forum he would have saved lives. And then Biden would have rehired him.
I don’t agree with this. I think it just would’ve entrenched people more who supported trump. As you said, those who agreed with fauci were already doing what they needed to. Sadly, I don’t think being blunt would’ve helped the cause, as it was already political.

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Postby shmenguin » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:23 pm

If you identify as anti capitalist and would like to change the world through action, handing over society’s primary tool of information sharing and communication is going to be a hell of an obstacle. It’s the private airplane/climate change thing. The goal isn’t to persuade individuals through behavior modeling. It’s about institutional policies and frameworks.

Capitalism is a multi-century Ponzi scheme, but I don’t see any way to change it up at this point. Humanity itself is a similar scheme. Maybe they expire together.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:25 pm

And Edison made a lightbulb by candle light. What a f*cking hypocrite that guy was, huh???
Because that's a comparable scenario
Non-sense post replied to with a non-sense post. Isn’t that what this thread is about?
Group spreads message wanting to dismantle capitalism by using products of capitalism. Mine wasn't a nonsense post, it was pointing out a hypocritical statement.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:28 pm

Your premise is that the only possible way an iPhone could have ever been made is via a capitalist society. Sorry. It’s a false premise. I understand that’s how it did happen (kinda), but that’s not the only possible means for it to occur.

That plus what shmenguin said. You use the tools available to you to do your work.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:39 pm

I thought it was funny that they’re trying to battle racial domination by only allowing black people into their club

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:40 pm

Then educate me. Under what other economic structure would allow for technological innovation to be possible? Capitalism is certainly the least stifling of any others tried in human civilization so far, especially the one they push in Marxism/Communism.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:41 pm

If you identify as anti capitalist and would like to change the world through action, handing over society’s primary tool of information sharing and communication is going to be a hell of an obstacle. It’s the private airplane/climate change thing. The goal isn’t to persuade individuals through behavior modeling. It’s about institutional policies and frameworks.

Capitalism is a multi-century Ponzi scheme, but I don’t see any way to change it up at this point. Humanity itself is a similar scheme. Maybe they expire together.

I’d say it’s less capitalism as a whole, and more that a handful of industries work in direct contradiction to our entire well being (energy, healthcare and private equity)

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:41 pm

unpopular opinion: capitalism balanced with socialism is good

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:42 pm

Then educate me. Under what other economic structure would allow for technological innovation to be possible? Capitalism is certainly the least stifling of any others tried in human civilization so far, especially the one they push in Marxism/Communism.
There has never, in the history of humanity, ever been any technological innovation, ever, without the almighty capitalism? You serious, Clark?

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:42 pm

Then educate me. Under what other economic structure would allow for technological innovation to be possible? Capitalism is certainly the least stifling of any others tried in human civilization so far, especially the one they push in Marxism/Communism.
Yawn

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:53 pm

Then educate me. Under what other economic structure would allow for technological innovation to be possible? Capitalism is certainly the least stifling of any others tried in human civilization so far, especially the one they push in Marxism/Communism.
There has never, in the history of humanity, ever been any technological innovation, ever, without the almighty capitalism? You serious, Clark?
Could you dance around a question and be more obtuse, Ms. Psaki?

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:56 pm

Lol. If you don’t know the answer already... I’m not sure what to tell ya.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:07 pm

I ask a legit question and you act like a total Canaan about it. Sweet.

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Postby MR25 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:16 pm

To be fair to c2i, it's really difficult to tell when you're trolling vs when you're trying to be serious.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:22 pm

I’m not serious, and don’t call me Shirley.

Lbl is 50% troll 49% edge lord. So no sense in engaging further guessing that this is that 1% of the time.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:34 pm

Nothing elicits good convo better than starting a conversation with "then educate me." I could tell he was super serious there

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:38 pm

I was being serious, but questioning BLM in anyway, shape, or form is blasphemous. So was it bit of a smart ass way to phrase it, sure, but was only used due to the initial response from c2i which, imo, was asinine.

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