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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:57 pm
by eddy
But nothing will happen because turtle man won’t call a session, correct? So, as usual, his words don’t mean ****, or that rumor was garbage.
Not until next week. They won't vote until after his time is up. Maybe they'll grow a spine? Donny two times

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:57 pm
by skullman80
I mean he can still get convicted, but it will just happen after his is out of office. That would still strip him of his pension, and detail, and not let him run for office again etc.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:57 pm
by Shyster
Where the heck did he manage to buy 2,500 rounds of ammunition? I can't even find a single box of .380.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:00 pm
by MR25
He's probably the reason you can't

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:00 pm
by Troy Loney
Some of these GOP representatives that voted to impeach are from highly Trumpy districts. The WA-4 guy's district actually went bigger for Trump in '20 than in '16.
I saw something about how the WA primary system would help these congressmen against potential Trumpy primary opponents knocking them out of the general election.

The way I've seen some pundits explain the GOP divide that I think is accurate, is that the factional split is "authoritarian" versus "non-authoritarian" factions. So I don't think it's accurate to look at it from a conservative, more conservative vantage point. Kind of like how Utah is extremely conservative and voted extremely republican, but will likely back Romney over Trump.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:01 pm
by Shyster
I mean he can still get convicted, but it will just happen after his is out of office. That would still strip him of his pension, and detail, and not let him run for office again etc.
It would only bar him from running again. The statute says that presidents who are "removed" from office lose the pension/detail/etc. But if he is already out of office, then he could not be "removed." So the only think a post-term impeachment conviction would attain is a bar from future office.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:01 pm
by Faftorial
I mean he can still get convicted, but it will just happen after his is out of office. That would still strip him of his pension, and detail, and not let him run for office again etc.
I want him to run in 2024.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:02 pm
by blackjack68
I want him to go away.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:03 pm
by DigitalGypsy66
Whoa, I am STUNNED that my Congressman voted to impeach. All week he said he wouldn't, and then he joins Clyburn as the only two in SC to vote yea.

New found respect ✅

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:04 pm
by eddy

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:05 pm
by Faftorial
I want him to go away.
I'm sure you do.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:07 pm
by Troy Loney

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:08 pm
by dodint
*punt*

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:12 pm
by Freddy Rumsen
Get your ballot ready tif...

The ghost of Strom Thurmond says "Hold my sweet tea." :lol:

But seriously - I don't understand the need to spend 60+ years in politics.

Someone shared an NBC News segment from when Harvey Milk (and Mayor Moscone of SF) was killed. Dianne Feinstein president of that same Board of Supervisors, and was the one who announced that they had been killed. That was in 1978.
Many moons ago I saw Strom Thurmond "walking" in the capitol.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:16 pm
by skullman80
I mean he can still get convicted, but it will just happen after his is out of office. That would still strip him of his pension, and detail, and not let him run for office again etc.
It would only bar him from running again. The statute says that presidents who are "removed" from office lose the pension/detail/etc. But if he is already out of office, then he could not be "removed." So the only think a post-term impeachment conviction would attain is a bar from future office.
Even if it does just that it's worth it.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:23 pm
by Tomas
Where the heck did he manage to buy 2,500 rounds of ammunition? I can't even find a single box of .380.
I have not been around guns much - how heavy are 2,500 rounds and what volume do they take (i.e. what vehicle do I have to bring to make it all fit)?

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:36 pm
by Pavel Bure
Where the heck did he manage to buy 2,500 rounds of ammunition? I can't even find a single box of .380.
I have not been around guns much - how heavy are 2,500 rounds and what volume do they take (i.e. what vehicle do I have to bring to make it all fit)?
Boxes usually about 50. Maybe the size of... a box of golf balls. That much ammo is enough to be a stock pile. It’d be heavy as **** to.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:45 pm
by tifosi77
Given the loadout cited in the charging document, it was probably a mix of pistol and carbine rounds. All told, some of you probably have dogs that weigh more than 2,500 rounds.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:51 pm
by Pavel Bure
I could for sure be wrong. I was basing it on 9mm rounds. 2500 of those are def heavier than even a large breed dog.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:54 pm
by dodint
77.4lbs. Probably a couple of magazines loaded and the rest in a backpack.

I suppose you need to find the guy with a bunch of empty magazines and assume they were together.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:59 pm
by Shyster
Despite the emphasis in the tweet, 2,500 rounds is not that much ammo. The size and weight would depend on the caliber involved, but that many rounds would fit easily into a medium-to-large suitcase, for example.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:00 pm
by NTP66
I don’t think the concern here is the weight. Because that’s dumb.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:02 pm
by willeyeam
Ah. Well if they shot 2,500 times at our Capitol at least they wouldn't have taken up too much room

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:05 pm
by tifosi77
To add, here's a chart with round weights:
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Just for the sake of spitballing and discussing, let's say he brought 75 30-round magazines of 5.56 (2,250 rounds), and let's say 20 mags of 9mm (300 rounds..... I know that's a bit over 2,500 rounds, just play along). Based on that chart, the 5.56 cache would weigh right around 60 lbs, and the 9mm cache would weigh just over 8 lbs. So that split is under 70 lbs total.

Then again, that doesn't take into account the added weight of the actual magazines.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:10 pm
by NTP66
The only way weight would matter is if these idiots were literally throwing bullets at people by hand.