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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:46 am
by Freddy Rumsen
Fascism is a lazy way of saying, "I don't like the way you use the power I wish I had."

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:08 am
by Gaucho
Lazy indeed.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:56 am
by Freddy Rumsen
Oh...


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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:59 am
by count2infinity


And in case you need some follow up to the question:


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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:07 am
by eddy

And in case you need some follow up to the question:

I have it all ready, I have it all ready. What a **** NTP66. I despise that piece of human garbage.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:28 am
by nocera
"It's a much better plan."

"What is it?"

Nice response.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:36 am
by King Colby
Obamacare thoughts:

-Eliminating the individual mandate was a good thing
-the ACA does well to serve those who are poor, but not poor enough for Medicaid
-the ACA does not do well to serve the "still not well off but too rich for obamacare" group, If you make over 400% of Federal Poverty Level (which is by no means a lot of money), you get no subsidy and have to pay the full premiums, which are not cheap
-well-off people enrolling individually are screwed. They have to pay highly elevated premiums for an extremely narrow network. At one point, my middle-class parents were paying around 32k a year for individual health care.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:39 am
by Freddy Rumsen
It wasn't just "well-off" people on the individual market who got reamed by Obamacare. I had a perfectly fine individual family plan whose price went up 300% when Obamacare was enacted.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:49 am
by Freddy Rumsen
The Qanon of the Left


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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:53 am
by CBear3
Obamacare thoughts:

-Eliminating the individual mandate was a good thing
-the ACA does well to serve those who are poor, but not poor enough for Medicaid
-the ACA does not do well to serve the "still not well off but too rich for obamacare" group, If you make over 400% of Federal Poverty Level (which is by no means a lot of money), you get no subsidy and have to pay the full premiums, which are not cheap
-well-off people enrolling individually are screwed. They have to pay highly elevated premiums for an extremely narrow network. At one point, my middle-class parents were paying around 32k a year for individual health care.
Why was eliminating the individual mandate a good thing?
Removing the good drivers so only the bad ones are insured only drives up the cost.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:57 am
by CBear3
The Qanon of the Left

What's the Leftist part of this ignorance?

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:58 am
by faftorial
The Qanon of the Left
Huh?

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:59 am
by count2infinity
Because Antifa is literally a Nazi party/Hitler organization... keep up, folks.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:01 am
by Freddy Rumsen
Because Antifa is literally a Nazi party/Hitler organization... keep up, folks.
So only Nazi's can be Anti-semites? TIL

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:03 am
by count2infinity
I was just joking... I have literally no idea how that tweet relates to Qanon, nor the left...

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:03 am
by faftorial
I was just joking... I have literally no idea how that tweet relates to Qanon, nor the left...
:thumb:

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:04 am
by faftorial
I was just joking... I have literally no idea how that tweet relates to Qanon, nor the left...
I think he's two moves ahead of us.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:10 am
by King Colby
Obamacare thoughts:

-Eliminating the individual mandate was a good thing
-the ACA does well to serve those who are poor, but not poor enough for Medicaid
-the ACA does not do well to serve the "still not well off but too rich for obamacare" group, If you make over 400% of Federal Poverty Level (which is by no means a lot of money), you get no subsidy and have to pay the full premiums, which are not cheap
-well-off people enrolling individually are screwed. They have to pay highly elevated premiums for an extremely narrow network. At one point, my middle-class parents were paying around 32k a year for individual health care.
Why was eliminating the individual mandate a good thing?
Removing the good drivers so only the bad ones are insured only drives up the cost.
Forcing people to spend a substantial amount of money is governmental overreach. The car insurance rebuttal is flawed - you have the choice of just not driving. Whats the alternative for not having health insurance in that instance?

The cost driver comment is a fair point in theory, but in Western PA, prices have actually been relatively stable, networks have broadened, and options have increased since the mandate went away in 2018. There are actually even some new lower cost options that didn't exist.

Young, healthy people (the least likely to value paying for health care) had two options. They could either pay $400 a month for an extremely high deductible narrow network plan, or pay the nominal fee on their tax return (i think it was like $695). The mandate didn't impact them much, and those that it did impact were unlikely to go back to being uninsured.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:11 am
by Morkle
Wasn't there something in Florida about Holocaust deniers?

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/2019 ... caust-fact

There was, not sure how it's a left thing, but I would attribute Holocaust denying to be more Right than anything, lol.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:16 am
by nocera
Denying facts, history, and/or science? Yeah, definitely a left thing.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:19 am
by MR25
The Qanon of the Left


If you had actually read the article, you would know that their sample size was incredibly small, given the population they wanted to generalize over (10,000 students, 200 per state).

Also leaving out the more important part:
64% of those asked believed Holocaust education should be compulsory, and 70% said neo-Nazi views were unacceptable



But you do you Freddy.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:21 am
by King Colby
JFC

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:31 am
by mikey
That's the most important part...? haha

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:34 am
by Gaucho
You'll have to break down those 23% for me, Harriet.

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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:34 am
by count2infinity
That's the most important part...? haha
He said more... not most. PSH, READ MUCH HOCKEY BOY?!?!