Fifth Avenue Forum

Lmao. Nothing matters.

Why does that matter?

You really got us with that one. We should’ve been outraged but lol those liberals don’t even care about dancing in the street.

One could argue you're just as narrow in your scope.

You're focused on black killing each other without taking into consideration why it's happening, which is what the whole discussion was revolving around. You're not even attempting to entertain a notion that there's been generational cause and effect to get to this point.

I never said that's the only thing in scope. I said both should be discussed: posting.php?mode=quote&f=7&p=800692#pr800679

I'm sure economic inequality is absolutely one factor as to the reasons. I would bet that's not the only reason

I think the issue is you may be putting symptoms on the level of disease for discussion. We can discuss symptoms until blue in the face, but unless there's an effort to get at the disease, the best we can do is get palliative relief.

That discussion point goes both ways.

We can replace their crutches with ladders. We can build them hundreds of ladders...thousands. We can build short ladders and tall ladders...skinny ladders and wide ladders. We can stand at the top of every single ladder with our hands reached down to help pull them up.......
...but they need to be willing to climb.

TBH, I'm not so sure some of these organizations are as concerned with equal opportunity as they are equal results.

These feel related to me, i.e., enough ladders theoretically gets us to true "equal opportunity," at which point, any unequal result cannot be attributed to the system.

But that seems a poor basis for making decisions at the moment. I have no doubt that, at a certain point, it becomes hard to point to unequal results as evidence of unequal opportunity. That said, I happen to believe we are so far from reaching that point that it doesn't do a whole lot of good to worry about this concern yet. In addition, I think it becomes a harmful thing to worry about when you consider that we probably need to over correct to address these inequities and get to a point of true "equal opportunity" (if we could ever measure it).

This is especially true if we credit the arguments that there is some sort of cultural (or other) predisposition to not climb the ladders, so to speak. If such a thing is present and at play here, rather than this being a basis to lay blame at the feet of the oppressed (whether now or at some future theoretical moment where "enough has been done), it should be a data point that is considered in figuring out how to fix this. If anything warrants something like over correction, the possible reality that individuals have to swim up stream against heavy cultural currents to climb out would seem to be one such thing. Considered that way, it is just part of the bad luck that contributes to the inequity we see, part of the bad luck that we need to cancel.

Put differently, if you build the best and most flawless ladders possible but they can only be reached by those are that are 8' tall and everyone that needs the ladders is 4' tall--that's not gonna cut it.

Lmao. Nothing matters.

Why does that matter?

Nobodys allowed to sit in a field and watch fireworks this weekend.
Most people cant sit in a park bench.
Were shutting back down because cases went up like a quarter if a percent after increased testing.

Does it really need explained why some people have a problem that everyone else has to take these drastic measures unless you have a cause you want to yell about?

You really got us with that one. We should’ve been outraged but lol those liberals don’t even care about dancing in the street.

You dadholes play Chicken Little all day every day unless its certain people and you cant figure it the **** out why people arent listening

Yesterday: I cant wait to call that number and rat on places I see that arent complying.

Today: LMBO who cares if hundreds of people are squeezed into a small area for no reason??

Yesterday: I cant wait to call that number and rat on places I see that arent complying.

Today: LMBO who cares if hundreds of people are squeezed into a small area for no reason??

You really do think everyone who has views “left” of yours is one person, don’t you?

My god. The electric slide? Those bastards.

After photographing more weddings than I care to remember, I can say with complete confidence that anyone who dances to the electric slide should be drawn and quartered.

Yesterday: I cant wait to call that number and rat on places I see that arent complying.

Today: LMBO who cares if hundreds of people are squeezed into a small area for no reason??

You really do think everyone who has views “left” of yours is one person, don’t you?

The guy I'm arguing with said that just yesterday

Yesterday: I cant wait to call that number and rat on places I see that arent complying.

Today: LMBO who cares if hundreds of people are squeezed into a small area for no reason??

You really do think everyone who has views “left” of yours is one person, don’t you?

The guy I'm arguing with said that just yesterday

You may need to pay even closer attention to my posting habits then. I’m clearly the “protests are outside and normally well masked so they’re much lower risk than inside without a mask” guy. We discuss protests and infection rates fairly regularly in the covid thread. I did appreciate seeing protestors having fun though so thanks for that.

Yesterday: I cant wait to call that number and rat on places I see that arent complying.

Today: LMBO who cares if hundreds of people are squeezed into a small area for no reason??

You really do think everyone who has views “left” of yours is one person, don’t you?

The guy I'm arguing with said that just yesterday

You may need to pay even closer attention to my posting habits then. I’m clearly the “protests are outside and normally well masked so they’re much lower risk than inside without a mask” guy. We discuss protests and infection rates fairly regularly in the covid thread. I did appreciate seeing protestors having fun though so thanks for that.

Yes. And I'm saying it's a cop out. Either this is a serious thing or it isnt. It's just funny how all the fear prmorn addicts can draw the line. Because were pretty much at, "meh, some of em had masks on" doesnt really size with some of the freak outside I've seen the past two days over bars being open.

Is that why fireworks are cancelled? Is that why theres still caution tape around basketball courts? Things are so goddamn dangerous youd think not gathering by the hundreds every single night would be a small ask.

Is that why fireworks are cancelled? Is that why theres still caution tape around basketball courts? Things are so goddamn dangerous youd think not gathering by the hundreds every single night would be a small ask.

Asking cops to treat black people the same way they treat white people is a small ask as well.

Asking cops to treat black people the same way they treat white people is a small ask as well.

Asking cops to treat black people the same way they treat white people is a small ask as well.

Cops beat the crap out of plenty of white people, too. I'd say we should ask cops to treat everyone the way they treat other cops, but if that happened then no one would ever be arrested no matter what crimes they commit.

Protests are a month old and have shown no scientific evidence that they are responsible for any sort of spike in cases. Bars being open have. If we discover that being outside with a mask on still translates to a spike in cases I'll change my tune.

Protests are a month old and have shown no scientific evidence that they are responsible for any sort of spike in cases. Bars being open have. If we discover that being outside with a mask on still translates to a spike in cases I'll change my tune.

50% of people don’t know who they came into contact with or remember everywhere they went. So I doubt we know much if anything.