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Postby MWB » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:15 am

Down with the #fakenews that is SNL!

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:18 pm

Rudy doing some great lawyering on th abc show today.

At this time, the trump team is still of the opinion that they can’t prove trump knew about the meeting with the Russians. I mean, great, there isn’t a paper trail that confirms he knew about a meeting that included basically the entire head of his campaign. All they will have is trump jr denying he told trump about it on the two calls with his dad sandwiching the meeting, that will hold up.

Also, they are backing off the roger stone stuff, more or less saying that because trump didn’t coordinate the hacking, he’s innocent

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Postby Factorial » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:38 pm

Allegedly.

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Postby Factorial » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:02 pm

Cory Booker says he ain't gay:

“I’m heterosexual,” Booker told the newspaper. ”Every candidate should run on their authentic self, tell their truth, and more importantly, or mostly importantly, talk about their vision for the country."

Past political opponents of Booker have attempted to question his sexuality, according to the Inquirer. Booker is considering a bid for the Democratic nomination for president in 2020.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/421 ... terosexual

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:22 pm

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Postby Gaucho » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:59 pm

Good for him to come out, though.

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Postby blackjack68 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:04 am

So brave.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:18 am

How am I supposed to explain to my daughter that we have a senator that's a self proclaimed heterosexual?

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Postby MR25 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:22 am

I'm more curious as to why people question his sexuality as a political attack...

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:24 am

Are you though? You don't think that's something that would happen?

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Postby MR25 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:42 am

My statement was more rhetorical out of exasperation than anything else.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:18 am

I'm more curious as to why people question his sexuality as a political attack...
People have been doing that down here with Lindsey Graham for 25 years...always rumblings behind the scenes, both parties.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:57 am

It's a weird dynamic.

In South Carolina, suggesting a white candidate fathered a little black baby - out of wedlock! - can kill a presidential campaign. Hinting that a male candidate might fancy other male candidates can negatively follow a person through twenty years of public life.

In the African American community, homosexuality can defeat all other considerations as an effective negative campaign threat axis; Prop 8 would not have passed in 2008 were it not for capitalizing on African Americans turning up in huge numbers to cast a vote for the first African American presidential candidate.

I'll never vote for a candidate called Theresa, because I have my reasons.

As a people, we sort ourselves in rather odd ways at times.

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:02 am

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:20 am

JUST IN: Court documents: Two of Michael Flynn's business associates, Bikan Rafiekian (Bijan Kian) and Kamil Alptekin, indicted for alleged conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government and other charges; case tied to efforts to extradite Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen.
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1074690206274600962

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:49 am

How does this square with the idea being pushed that Flynn was railroaded by the FBI and tricked to lie?

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Postby Viva la Ben » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:02 pm

This clears the President, NO COLLUSION, very cool.

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Postby Viva la Ben » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:04 pm

Comey is back answering more questions about Crooked H.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:13 pm

In the African American community, homosexuality can defeat all other considerations as an effective negative campaign threat axis
Bingo, which is why it is so acutely relevant with Booker's legitimacy. There are very strong undercurrents of homophobia in the black community. Some of it is religious, but a lot of it is just general disapproval. Booker's legitimacy as a national contender strongly relies on getting out the black vote, and if he were to come out, that would kill it.

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Postby eddy » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:14 pm

JUST IN: Court documents: Two of Michael Flynn's business associates, Bikan Rafiekian (Bijan Kian) and Kamil Alptekin, indicted for alleged conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government and other charges; case tied to efforts to extradite Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen.
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1074690206274600962
yikes. this seems really bad.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:15 pm

In the African American community, homosexuality can defeat all other considerations as an effective negative campaign threat axis
Bingo, which is why it is so acutely relevant with Booker's legitimacy. There are very strong undercurrents of homophobia in the black community. Some of it is religious, but a lot of it is just general disapproval. Booker's legitimacy as a national contender strongly relies on getting out the black vote, and if he were to come out, that would kill it.
Also a lot of issues with masculinity.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:19 pm

Yup. See: Locker rooms.

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:11 pm

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Postby Viva la Ben » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:19 pm

We’ve gone from Trump saying “NO COLLUSION” to Rudy G now saying “collusion is not a crime”.

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:26 pm

He didn't kill anyone, did he?

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