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Postby count2infinity » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:05 am

They’re two of the best people on the planet at having a discussion. Those are lofty expectations of the rest of us.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:38 am

I'm about to take a Sunday morning coffee dump. How's that for discussion

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Postby count2infinity » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:29 am

Speaking of morning dump… lots of people dumping on Rodgers last night.












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Postby Morkle » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:45 am

They’re two of the best people on the planet at having a discussion. Those are lofty expectations of the rest of us.
His last point about destroying a religious book and destroying science book was an excellent point.

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Postby count2infinity » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:48 am

They’re two of the best people on the planet at having a discussion. Those are lofty expectations of the rest of us.
His last point about destroying a religious book and destroying science book was an excellent point.
The easy out there, though, is that the religious book is the direct word of god and would be rewritten exactly the same as it’s directly from god.

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Postby King Colby » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:53 am

It's not like anyone's actually "scientifically proven" the origin of man.

I believe his point stands on micro-level science stuff but at a macro level there's plenty of room for interpretation

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Postby count2infinity » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:57 am

It's not like anyone's actually "scientifically proven" the origin of man.

I believe his point stands on micro-level science stuff but at a macro level there's plenty of room for interpretation
He wasn’t trying to say that. Of corse science hasn’t proven where/how/mechanism of life and man. Lots of good ideas, but not enough evidence to get there.

What he’s saying is the math, physics, chemistry, biology… the stuff that is pretty locked in as being fact: if we were to delete all that knowledge from the earth and start over, those things that were proven would be proven again eventually. If we erase all religious books and knowledge from the earth, they wouldn’t come back the same. Maybe similar, but not identical.

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Postby dodint » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:32 am

Loves the Rodgers put downs.

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Postby blackjack68 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:55 am

I can’t decide which is my favorite, but probably Olbermann

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Postby tifosi77 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:35 pm

The Rodgers tweets are delightfully petty.

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:28 am

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Postby Morkle » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:28 am

I'm sure he's going to cry about it and being canceled on Pat's show this week.

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Postby eddy » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:59 am

Would anyone really be upset if the entire population attending the anti vaxx rally in DC yesterday got wiped out? Those speeches were absolutely insane

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:06 am



It’s like a jackass drain, all the obnoxious people move that direction

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:07 am

Would anyone really be upset if the entire population attending the anti vaxx rally in DC yesterday got wiped out? Those speeches were absolutely insane
God willing

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Postby robbiestoupe » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:15 am

It's not like anyone's actually "scientifically proven" the origin of man.

I believe his point stands on micro-level science stuff but at a macro level there's plenty of room for interpretation
He wasn’t trying to say that. Of corse science hasn’t proven where/how/mechanism of life and man. Lots of good ideas, but not enough evidence to get there.

What he’s saying is the math, physics, chemistry, biology… the stuff that is pretty locked in as being fact: if we were to delete all that knowledge from the earth and start over, those things that were proven would be proven again eventually. If we erase all religious books and knowledge from the earth, they wouldn’t come back the same. Maybe similar, but not identical.
Religious books contain quite a bit of history, and use knowledge at the time they were written to tell stories/parables of the religion they are teaching. So yeah, he's right but....so?

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:08 am

Religious books contain quite a bit of history, and use knowledge at the time they were written to tell stories/parables of the religion they are teaching. So yeah, he's right but....so?
Perhaps this is better suited for the religion thread, but the point being that if you were to hit the reset button on humanity ala The Good Place judge:

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When you start over, 2+2 is still going to be 4. The Pythagorean theory will still be valid. When you have a pure substance that has three atoms, one with 8 protons and the other two with 1 proton covalently bound together, they'll be in a bent formation, and if you have a bucket of them they'll be liquid between 0°C and 100°C. A ball will accelerate toward earth at 9.8 m/sec^2. These things will all still be true, and will all be rediscovered.

Will all the Roman gods be rewritten exactly as they are? Will the Christian bible be rewritten exactly as is and will the interpretations of those writings be exactly as they are? Will Scientology still be a thing? Maybe... but most likely only if you go with Shmenguin's no free will theory which sort of violates what most Christians believe anyways.

The point is that science proves itself over and over. Multiple people do the experiments and they come to the same results over and over. So the idea that it takes "faith" to believe in science is a stretch at best, certainly not the same faith that it takes to believe in a religion.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:06 pm

Which is why I do not think it's appropriate to grant religious exemptions for things. You're choosing that set of beliefs, it is not an immutable trait or characteristic.

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Postby faftorial » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:10 pm

With the new governor of VA pulling a DeSantis with overriding local school boards on masking mandates, the GOP's "local control is always better" argument has been completely cast aside.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:17 pm

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-p ... 1643051349
The Pentagon hasn’t said under what circumstances the U.S. would deploy the troops, nor what NATO’s threshold would be for requesting them, but officials said it could send a signal to Russia that the U.S. would quickly bolster the defenses of NATO allies in the event of a Russian incursion into Ukraine. The troops could also be on standby should the U.S. decide they are needed to evacuate tens of thousands of Americans now residing in Ukraine, the officials said.

The forces won’t be authorized to enter Ukraine, U.S. officials said, but they could be used to support any such contingency. Many of the forces must be prepared to move within 18 to 36 hours, U.S. officials said.

The U.S. decision comes as North Atlantic Treaty Organization members, including Denmark and the Netherlands, began moving ships and aircraft to northeastern and southeastern member states ahead of an expected move by Russia.

U.S. officials have said they have yet to believe Russian President Vladimir Putin has made a decision to invade Ukraine, but U.S. officials said a sense of inevitability has beset the Pentagon as diplomatic negotiations have failed to narrow the gap between Moscow and the West.

Russia has amassed 100,000 troops near the Ukrainian border and tanks, equipment and other support are moving eastward regularly. In addition, Moscow is moving troops and S-400 surface-to-air missile systems into Belarus, which borders Ukraine and NATO members Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. Russia also has moved several ships near Ukraine’s shores in the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov.

President Biden met Saturday at Camp David with his national-security team to discuss the Russian military threat to Ukraine and efforts by the U.S. and its allies to deter an attack, and the Pentagon presented several military options, U.S. officials said.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:22 pm

The Dutch navy is on it.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:23 pm

I’d love to see the mental gymnastics of how “state rights > federal rights” yet “municipality rights < state rights”

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Postby faftorial » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:35 pm

I’d love to see the mental gymnastics of how “state rights > federal rights” yet “municipality rights < state rights”
I think they are saying parent's rights trump local school board's rights. Hey, I don't like lots of local laws so can you make them optional?

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:56 pm

The Russians are suggesting they may use tactical nukes.

The whole situation is crazy. We've been fighting an insurgent war for the last 20 years with a military designed to meet the Soviet Pact forces in the Fulda Gap. Now, we're drawing down to fight a similar Cold War style armored fight with a military adapted to fight small unit battles against insurgent.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:12 pm

On another note,

It's apparent to me (and a consensus of economists seem to agree) that the current inflation woes are a direct result of rampant consumer spending driven by pandemic stimmies over the last several years. Yes, other pandemic macroeconomic concerns like supply chain disruptions are a prominent factor, but government policy was the biggest.

So now, all Americans are going to end up getting rammed worse in the long run.

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