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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:45 am

There is not an impossible chance the GOP gains 2 to 5 seats in the Senate and loses the House bigly.
Ratings Change: #NDSEN moves from Toss Up to Lean R
https://mobile.twitter.com/CookPolitica ... 0060294145
I think there's a chance that 538 is being too bullish on the democrats because of the weight they are putting on the fundraising numbers. Basing it on the cook report, and using the polling listed for each race on 538, you have this:

Toss ups DEM REP
MN-1
CA-10 49.00 46.50
CA-25 47.50 44.17
CA-39 45.50 45.50
CA-45 47.67 45.11
CA-48 47.00 45.67
FL-26 45.00 46.71
FL-27 43.80 42.40
IA-3 41.50 43.50
IL-12 42.20 45.60
IL-14 42.00 46.00
KS-02 40.00 37.50
KY-06 47.60 45.00
ME-02 45.75 45.00
MI-08 43.00 45.83
NC-09 43.50 41.75
NC-13 40.60 43.20
NJ-03 44.11 44.22
NJ-07 46.00 44.00
NM-02 42.00 47.20
NY-19 45.50 45.00
NY-22 48.00 44.80
OH-1 42.40 46.80
OH-12
PA-01 46.80 47.80
TX-07 45.67 46.67
TX-32 47.50 46.00
UT-04 42.91 47.00
VA-02 44.67 47.33
VA-07 46.00 46.67
WA-08 43.33 48.33

The democrats have to win at least 11 of these races. Outside of CA, the majority of these races are in the Rep favor.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:02 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 4b35b9a5e0

Wow.
In recent days, a cadre of conservative House Republicans allied with Trump has been privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi, highlighting his association with the Muslim Brotherhood in his youth and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden, according to four GOP officials involved in the discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:39 pm

Can't wait to see all the Trump supporters blindly accept those as fact with no proof.

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Postby AuthorTony » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:40 pm

I thought it was a horrible, awful thing to destroy someone's character for political motives. I guess, since he'd dead, it's okay though.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:06 pm

There is not an impossible chance the GOP gains 2 to 5 seats in the Senate and loses the House bigly.
Ratings Change: #NDSEN moves from Toss Up to Lean R
https://mobile.twitter.com/CookPolitica ... 0060294145
Heitkamp has felt she was going to lose for a while now, hence her Kavanaugh vote (or more tellingly her remarks about her vote). So that moves the Senate to 52-48 (including the two I's from New England) basically as the starting position.

There are two very different maps in play this year. To your point, I don't think the R's are going to pick up five seats in the Senate, but two is a definite likelihood. The House is looking more like a 30-35 seat pickup for Democrats, which is only slightly above the norm for a new president's first mid-term.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:07 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 4b35b9a5e0

Wow.
In recent days, a cadre of conservative House Republicans allied with Trump has been privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi, highlighting his association with the Muslim Brotherhood in his youth and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden, according to four GOP officials involved in the discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly.
This sort of tells you everything you need to know about Trump's statement that he has no financial interests in Saudi Arabia.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:11 pm

Take Trump out of the equation and I'm not sure what would be different in the "conservative" response. They have always been deferential to the Saudi's, see the 9/11 Commission and Yemen.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:14 pm

But Trump is the equation now.

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Postby count2infinity » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:15 pm

Take Trump out of the equation...
You know it's bad when Freddy is calling for impeachment... :slug:

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:30 pm

@tifosi77 since I think it was you I had a discussion with about Farrakhan having a Twitter account. At the time I wasn't sure, but it appears he does have one. Alex Jones got pulled from Twitter, I believe Farrakhan should as well for posting anti-semitic videos.
https://twitter.com/LouisFarrakhan

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Postby Guinness » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:45 pm

The USG's response to this wouldn't be any different if it were Hillary in the Oval Office than compared to Trump. The question is not about Trump's business dealings with the House of Saud; it is about the petrodollar. The Trump business ties angle is just partisan nonsense, like the zomg-Obama-bowed-before-the-Saudi-king Facebook meme-ery.

That sht goes on for your entertainment, so you can feel superior to your political adversaries. The reality is that, though it is dwindling, the partnership-cum-Mexican-standoff that is the US/SA relationship is far more intricate and nuanced than any of that nonsense.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:32 pm

tifosi77 since I think it was you I had a discussion with about Farrakhan having a Twitter account. At the time I wasn't sure, but it appears he does have one. Alex Jones got pulled from Twitter, I believe Farrakhan should as well for posting anti-semitic videos.
https://twitter.com/LouisFarrakhan
I don't recall ever having a discussion about Farrakhan. I'm not saying it wasn't me, just saying if it was me, I don't remember it.

But I would tend to agree with you here. He's not less awful than Jones, just differently so.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:44 pm

tifosi77 since I think it was you I had a discussion with about Farrakhan having a Twitter account. At the time I wasn't sure, but it appears he does have one. Alex Jones got pulled from Twitter, I believe Farrakhan should as well for posting anti-semitic videos.
https://twitter.com/LouisFarrakhan
I don't recall ever having a discussion about Farrakhan. I'm not saying it wasn't me, just saying if it was me, I don't remember it.

But I would tend to agree with you here. He's not less awful than Jones, just differently so.
I can't recall if it was you or not honestly. I know I had a discussion with one of the guys here. I don't know the extent of what Jones did, but the worst I saw was him saying Sandy Hook was a hoax. While awful, I'd say Farrakhan literally saying Jews are termites is worse.

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Postby AuthorTony » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:47 pm

I think the difference was the lawsuit filed against Jones. It was only matter of time before the people suing Jones also sued Twitter, FB, YT, etc. for hosting his slanderous rants.

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Postby Willie Kool » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:25 pm

it is about the petrodollar.
This.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:42 pm



Heitkamp has felt she was going to lose for a while now, hence her Kavanaugh vote (or more tellingly her remarks about her vote). So that moves the Senate to 52-48 (including the two I's from New England) basically as the starting position.
With all the hand-wringing about how bad the senate map is for the Democrats this year, it actually seems like a blessing in disguise. Because of the current political environment, it looks like they could hold in a bunch of red or red/purple states (IN, MT, OH, WV, FL) and pick up in AZ and NV.

If they make those two pick ups, the 2020 map depends on MO, so it's either 50/50 or 51/49 Red. And looking at who is up in 2020, that MO seat is very important. There are two pick up opportunities in 2020 (CO and ME) and with Doug Jones up in 2020, they could be looking at the best case scenario of 50/50. And then long term, the other prime targets are Toomey and Ron Johnson in PA and WI.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:00 pm

Have you seen the latest polls in Arizona and Nevada?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/se ... d-arizona/

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Postby shafnutz05 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:00 pm

:lol:

Jim Acosta is starting to get unhinged.
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Postby NailedPenguin » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:03 pm

The "Dear Diary" stuff before Acosta tweets a while back was hilarious. Obviously he doesn't like it lol

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:24 pm

Have you seen the latest polls in Arizona and Nevada?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/se ... d-arizona/
Looks like Sinema has had some good recent polls, but yeah, NV has swung more towards Heller.

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Postby Viva la Ben » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:33 pm

Russian woman charged with attempted US election meddling
The criminal complaint against Elena Alekseevna Khusyaynova, 44, was revealed by the US Department of Justice on Friday.

Ms Khusyaynova is accused of running a programme called Project Lakhta, in which her team created online arguments and misinformation to spark division among Americans.

The programme allegedly used social media and other platforms to discuss topics including immigration, gun control, gun rights, the Confederate flag, race relations, LGBT issues, the Women's March and the NFL national anthem debate, according to the justice department.

Project Lakhta has a budget of $35m (£27m), but not all of their projects is directed at the US, according to officials.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45919876

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Postby Viva la Ben » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:09 pm

Saudi Arabi confirms Jamal Khashoggi was killed, and they fired a few advisors, and detained several nationals. The saudis are claiming it was a fistfight that resulted in Khashoggi’s death.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:15 pm

Russian woman charged with attempted US election meddling
The criminal complaint against Elena Alekseevna Khusyaynova, 44, was revealed by the US Department of Justice on Friday.

Ms Khusyaynova is accused of running a programme called Project Lakhta, in which her team created online arguments and misinformation to spark division among Americans.

The programme allegedly used social media and other platforms to discuss topics including immigration, gun control, gun rights, the Confederate flag, race relations, LGBT issues, the Women's March and the NFL national anthem debate, according to the justice department.

Project Lakhta has a budget of $35m (£27m), but not all of their projects is directed at the US, according to officials.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45919876
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