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Postby columbia » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:35 pm

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The liberal media has done a great disservice to you by not digging for the truth about real Russia collusion…@seanspicer weighs in next #Hannity

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Postby columbia » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:40 pm

So what if he is a scout?
Scout for whom?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:42 pm

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/ ... 7079069697

Turns out the local sheriff was called 20 times about the shooter.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:34 am

My MIL is pushing the "video games caused this tragedy" stuff on FB. MRW when deciding to engage:

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Postby count2infinity » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:36 am

I'm not touching FB convos on this with a 10 foot stick. The entirety of my FB feed is "THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LET GOD IN SCHOOL!"

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:42 am

I think there is something to be said for the fact all these shootings happen in the suburbs. The weapons capable of this kind of destruction have been around for a long time, they just "look" scarier now. So what has changed to make this happen more regularly? Primarily the one common denominator is that each one of the perpetrators came from a broken home, some with no father at all. All lack any kind of moral framework, which regardless of one's views on the "right" version of that (and I obviously have an opinion ;) ), they all inculcate in the recipient a basic understanding of right and wrong. You had boys with no ethical oversight, overstimulated with violence in media/entertainment, and a deep resentment that have no way to process and it is a powderkeg. You add a soulless and anti-community suburb to that, it just raises it even further.

The whole Thomas Dewey/Horace Mann mechanized schooling concept is not good for the mental health of kids, especially of boys.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:42 am

I'm not touching FB convos on this with a 10 foot stick. The entirety of my FB feed is "THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LET GOD IN SCHOOL!"
:lol:

My MiL is very Republican, and I physically cringe at some of the memes/comics she shares. I love her to death, and she's the nicest MiL a dude could ever ask for, but man...

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Postby Gaucho » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:49 am

My MIL is pushing the "video games caused this tragedy" stuff on FB. MRW when deciding to engage:

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Postby count2infinity » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:50 am

"You boys could use a little churchin' up!"
-Freddy

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:59 am

"You boys could use a little churchin' up!"
-Freddy
In the general obviously I wouldn't disagree with that.

However in this specific case a lack of any moral framework in the boy's life most certainly contributed to his nihilistic Nietzschian worldview.

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Postby count2infinity » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:03 am

I certainly agree that lack of guidance is likely an issue. I don't have any of the data nor intimate knowledge of each shooting that's happened since Columbine, so I can't comment one way or another on your claims.

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Postby Gaucho » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:09 am

Nietzsche was not a nihilist.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:14 am

Nietzsche was not a nihilist.
Nihilist was used to modify Nietzsche.

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Postby Gaucho » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:17 am

Misread, sorry.

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Postby CBear3 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:28 am

No offense, but by default anybody who would take another’s life without an immediate threat on their own is either lacking a moral compass or has one that is severely askew to most of civilization. That in itself isn’t a revelation, whether they’re not getting it at school or home, or as an adult.

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Postby Troy Loney » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:34 am

I think there is something to be said for the fact all these shootings happen in the suburbs. The weapons capable of this kind of destruction have been around for a long time, they just "look" scarier now. So what has changed to make this happen more regularly? Primarily the one common denominator is that each one of the perpetrators came from a broken home, some with no father at all. All lack any kind of moral framework, which regardless of one's views on the "right" version of that (and I obviously have an opinion ;) ), they all inculcate in the recipient a basic understanding of right and wrong. You had boys with no ethical oversight, overstimulated with violence in media/entertainment, and a deep resentment that have no way to process and it is a powderkeg. You add a soulless and anti-community suburb to that, it just raises it even further.

The whole Thomas Dewey/Horace Mann mechanized schooling concept is not good for the mental health of kids, especially of boys.

Did you read Sebastian jungers book tribe?

I think there are some similar concepts explored in that book

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Postby columbia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:33 am

There are two groups that have created chaos more than the Russians and that’s the Democrats and the mainstream media.” // WH deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley
That’s troubling.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:10 am

What's impressive is how the Florida shooter is a white supremacist according to liberals.

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Postby columbia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:14 am

Want To Prevent Mass Shootings? Stop The Wall-To-Wall National Media Coverage

When a troubled teen sees the chance to suddenly be elevated to a national platform, he may just take that opportunity

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/wan ... -coverage/

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Postby Gaucho » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:15 am

Brilliant.

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Postby shmenguin » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:21 am

Want To Prevent Mass Shootings? Stop The Wall-To-Wall National Media Coverage

When a troubled teen sees the chance to suddenly be elevated to a national platform, he may just take that opportunity

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/wan ... -coverage/
I don’t buy this premise anymore.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:21 am

Want To Prevent Mass Shootings? Stop The Wall-To-Wall National Media Coverage

When a troubled teen sees the chance to suddenly be elevated to a national platform, he may just take that opportunity

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/wan ... -coverage/
I was discussing this with my boss. The shooters always get covered so in-depth. I can name the Las Vegas shooter, what he did for a living, his hobbies, know that he had a girlfriend in the Phillipines during the attack, that he wired her tens of thousands of dollars, etc. I can't name one of the 58 people, or a single detail about their lives.

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Postby columbia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:22 am

Want To Prevent Mass Shootings? Stop The Wall-To-Wall National Media Coverage

When a troubled teen sees the chance to suddenly be elevated to a national platform, he may just take that opportunity

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/wan ... -coverage/
I don’t buy this premise anymore.
I’m not sure why one would.

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Postby shmenguin » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:24 am

Want To Prevent Mass Shootings? Stop The Wall-To-Wall National Media Coverage

When a troubled teen sees the chance to suddenly be elevated to a national platform, he may just take that opportunity

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/wan ... -coverage/
I don’t buy this premise anymore.
I’m not sure why one would.
Because pressuring news outlets to change is more within people’s reach than asking certain type of people to join us in society.

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Postby columbia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:26 am

It seems as lazy as blaming video games and a lack of proper churchin’.

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