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Postby Shyster » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:46 pm

Avenatti has locked his twitter account because Shad
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So we're now supposed to believe that a 4channer has a girlfriend? Please.

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:47 pm

Is it time to revisit whether it's possible that politically motivated sexual assault accusations can be fabricated?

I've been told all claims are to be treated as valid.

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Postby Morkle » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:49 pm

Is it time to revisit whether it's possible that politically motivated sexual assault accusations can be fabricated?

I've been told all claims are to be treated as valid.
I don't suspect all are valid, but they should be investigated. I'm very much a fan of giving someone the same sentence the person would have been given had they been accused. If the claim was fabricated originally.

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:51 pm

Yeah, but since this isn't a criminal or civil trial there are no penalties for anyone except BK.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:54 pm

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-politi ... 1537831889

Pretty good read from the Editorial Board:
There is a phrase for what is happening here: character assassination. Judge Kavanaugh’s good name is being smeared with sexual allegations on the eve of a Supreme Court confirmation vote in a campaign abetted if not orchestrated by Democrats.

Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, withheld Ms. Ford’s letter from her colleagues for six weeks until she sprung it at the last minute. She has since been demanding a fair and public hearing for Ms. Ford. But on Sunday she leapt on Ms. Ramirez’s claim to demand an “immediate postponement” in the hearing now scheduled for Thursday.

Fair? What about fairness for Mr. Kavanaugh, who since Ms. Ford’s accusation has offered to testify under oath that none of this happened? Instead he has had to hear himself denounced day after day as a sexual predator as Democrats and Ms. Ford’s lawyers try to dictate how a Senate committee should conduct its fact-finding.

The obvious strategy is to delay the hearing, and Mr. Kavanaugh’s chance to be heard and get a vote, for as long as possible. Who knows which other long-ago classmates might next rummage through their memories to recall what Mr. Kavanaugh might have done that no one else can remember?

The latest Democratic demand is that Chairman Chuck Grassley call as a witness Mark Judge, who Ms. Ford claims was present when Mr. Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her. Mr. Judge has already told congressional staff—lying to staff is a crime—that he knows nothing about the episode. But Democrats want Mr. Judge on the public stage so they can use his admitted history of drinking to smear Mr. Kavanaugh by association.

We warned Republicans not to fall for this politics of uncorroborated accusation, and perhaps now they understand that they are being played. Women who are abused deserve to be heard, but turning #MeToo into a political weapon undermines that cause.

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Postby Morkle » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:55 pm

Yeah, but since this isn't a criminal or civil trial there are no penalties for anyone except BK.
Sure, I think his only recourse would be to sue, yes?

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:03 pm

Yeah, but since this isn't a criminal or civil trial there are no penalties for anyone except BK.
So she shouldn't be allowed to be a professor any longer, I believe that is her profession.

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:04 pm

Yeah, and like I mentioned before, proving defamation as a public figure is very, very hard. He'd basically have to show that the defamers were reckless (they knew they were wrong but did it anyway) instead of negligent (they weren't sure but did it anyway).

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Postby Tomas » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:05 pm

Can the esteemed 5AF legal experts explain "3 to 10 years" sentence for Cosby? Is it "3 for sure, then the possibility of parole?"

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:09 pm

Can the esteemed 5AF legal experts explain "3 to 10 years" sentence for Cosby? Is it "3 for sure, then the possibility of parole?"
I'm not one of those; but I will say the fact that his bail was denied is huge. He's going to jail right now; not sitting at home while an endless appeal process works out. Their defense team lost big time there. And he also has to register as a sex offender which they were fighting pretty hard.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:12 pm

3 to 10 years? Looks like he's still getting off easily...

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:17 pm

Schumer on the Thursday hearing: When they hear Dr Ford, they are going to say “Oh boy. Maybe he shouldn’t be on the Supreme Court"
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChadPergram/ ... 1656619008

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:17 pm

3 to 10 years? Looks like [bhe's still getting off easily...[/b]
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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:25 pm

How long did it take for that gif to load for you to use?

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Postby Tomas » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:26 pm

Andrew Napolitano says Cosby's sentence is very light, but Cosby was denied justice during the trial:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5839940791001/

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:31 pm

Avenatti may be smarmy, but he's a very good trial attorney. I think something like three of the last five years he's won the largest damages for plaintiffs in the state, and the other two years he was still in the top two or three. I forget where I read that, and admit I might be mis-remembering the particulars. Point being, he may be distasteful, but he's not a chump.
My guess is that because he is under full investigation it is pretty serious.
The state Bar does not comment on the status or even existence of these investigations. The complaint was filed in March of this year, and forwarded for further investigation a couple weeks after that. As of May, Avenatti claimed to have not been contacted by the Bar regarding the complaint. These investigations typically take 5-6 months; we're at that stage now.
He certainly went dark real quick. It is not in his personality to not be the center of attention at all times.
He's done it before on at least one other occasion. Last time it lasted less than 24 hours.

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Postby dodint » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:32 pm

How long did it take for that gif to load for you to use?
About three minutes or so; I think the cactus testicle is still taking up all my bandwidth.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:19 pm

Reminds me of how someone on one 4-chan or reddit tried to take credit for duping Christopher Steele by claiming their made up golden shower story made it in to the Dossier.

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Postby Willie Kool » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:21 pm

4chan is deplorable central. I clicked Morkle's link earlier, read a bit, and felt like I should soak my PC in bleach.

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Postby grunthy » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:27 pm

Reminds me of how someone on one 4-chan or reddit tried to take credit for duping Christopher Steele by claiming their made up golden shower story made it in to the Dossier.
Hey it’s a “credible” accusation and it is on the accused to prove it wrong. :pop:

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Postby Tomas » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:02 pm

A difference of just a few hours:

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Postby NailedPenguin » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:19 pm

Jail-o pudding

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:54 pm

4chan is deplorable central. I clicked Morkle's link earlier, read a bit, and felt like I should soak my PC in bleach.
I enjoy the 4chan greentexts, but just click the imgur links from reddit. I never go to that site.

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