Politics And Current Events

[grunthy]

That it doesn't matter if its quotes from Rich Lowry or the neckbeards over at Vox. It doesnt make being on the edge of facism any more true.

I think though that the sentiment being expressed here encapsulates the impeachment drama. When the justification boils down for the acceptance of the breakdown in the separation of powers to keeping the opposition party down, then you're leaning in to fascism. At least that's how I see it, I haven't seen anyone bring up fascism regarding it.

If what you believe is a step towards fascism, then we would already be fascist by now with all the abuses of power.

[NailedPenguin]

Oh well if the good people over at vox.com believe were on the edge of facism that changes everything!

That is a direct quote from an editor at the national review. The article is a discussion with Rich Lowery.

Good talk.

That still means jack ****.

You might find 1 in 100,000 people that actually even give that a seconds worth of thought if you ask anyone besides journos and twitter.

Same with the impeachment. I can't think of single instance I've heard someone in real life even mention anything about Trump outside of this thread and social media.

You’ve never heard someone talk about trump? That strains credulity.

Unprovoked? No. Not even in a casual "current events" type of conversation. If I've been somewhere and he's on tv, sure. But even then no one ever seems to give an ounce of a crap. And I hang out with plenty of people who I know hate him. And with this impeachment I just don't see anyone offline spending any energy on it. I even work with people who have to deal and adjust and talk about tariffs. Never heard his name once in 3 years.

[MWB]

Interesting. I go out of my way to not talk about politics irl, unless it’s someone I know well, and it comes up a decent amount.

[Willie Kool]

If what you believe is a step towards fascism, then we would already be fascist by now with all the abuses of power.

We are. Have been since the '63 coup.

[count2infinity]

Interesting. I go out of my way to not talk about politics irl, unless it’s someone I know well, and it comes up a decent amount.

Yeah... I find that hard to believe NP. I understand that my experience =/= everyone's experience, but it's hard for me to take you at your word on that one. Maybe you just work at a place with a much, much different culture than I do.

[Beveridge]

Politics come up never when I'm off a computer or the news. Family, friends, workers, never hear anything. I also don't ever talk about it so that might have something to do with it.

I have to look up who 75% of the people are that are brought up in this thread because I honestly have no idea.

I'll be honest, based on how some get so riled up on here, twitter, facebook, etc, I'm glad it is the way it is. Don't have time to be that angry.

[Ted]

Half the country doesn’t vote and of those that do, most probably don’t even know who/what they are voting for, nor do they care after Election Day.

I’d be surprised if more than 5% of the country gave a **** about what is going on in Washington, despite their best attempts to seem really, really important and the media’s attempt to also make it seem so.

Everyone’s day goes on either way regardless of what happens in shithole DC.

[MWB]

Ignorance is bliss.

[Ted]

Or people have jobs, kids, hobbies, vacations, and various other ways they spend enjoying their time rather than worrying daily that the country is on the precipice of disaster.

I’ll assume your comment was not directed at me personally. If I’m wrong, let me know.

[Shyster]

George Mason law professor Ilya Somin has written pretty extensively on the topic of political ignorance, and he has a book out on the subject:

While ignorance is a problem when it comes to the functioning of government, for a lot of people it's perfectly rational. (Note: "ignorance" in this context does not mean stupidity; it just means being uninformed). It takes a fair amount of time and effort to stay informed about that the vast amount of government in this country is doing. Indeed, to keep completely up to date with the actions and functioning of every level of local, state, and federal governments would probably be a full-time job. Most people don't have the time. And the impact of a single vote on any level of government is minuscule, so there's not really any reward for making the effort.

Here's an interview too:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaredmeyer ... 2811247ff1

[NailedPenguin]

Interesting. I go out of my way to not talk about politics irl, unless it’s someone I know well, and it comes up a decent amount.

Yeah... I find that hard to believe NP. I understand that my experience =/= everyone's experience, but it's hard for me to take you at your word on that one. Maybe you just work at a place with a much, much different culture than I do.

I spit the truth

[Freddy Rumsen]

Whoever runs Dan Rather's Twitter account doesn't know how knock, knock jokes work.

[MWB]

Or people have jobs, kids, hobbies, vacations, and various other ways they spend enjoying their time rather than worrying daily that the country is on the precipice of disaster.

I’ll assume your comment was not directed at me personally. If I’m wrong, let me know.

It wasn’t. But there’s a middle ground. I don’t view discussing current events, trump or not, as burdensome.

[willeyeam]

I just. I don't know lol

[Freddy Rumsen]

Chris Cuomo and DJT, Jr must have gone to the same school of Nepotism.

[Morkle]

Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report, which will be released on Dec. 9, will broadly “refute accusations of a political conspiracy by senior law enforcement officials against the Trump campaign to favor Democrat Hillary Clinton, while also knocking the bureau for procedural shortcomings,” according to WaPo. The publication cited two anonymous U.S. officials who are in the know.
The IG’s review will reportedly also say that both the opening of an investigation into Papadopoulos and application for surveillance of Carter Page were justified.
And
Aside from the document alteration allegation, the Post reports, Horowitz is expected to shame the FBI for “systemic failures in its handling of surveillance applications” and recommend reforms. The former FBI lawyer, who was ousted from the bureau after the alleged alteration was discovered, is said to be the “most significant” case the IG report produced, even though others individuals did not escape criticism.
An anonymous individual said to be familiar with Horowitz’s investigation stated the obvious: “You can see how the warring factions will seize on the various parts of this to advance their respective narratives.”

[Gaucho]

[faftorial]

Tillerson: "**** moron"

is my favorite.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

[Gaucho]

[Troy Loney]

Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report, which will be released on Dec. 9, will broadly “refute accusations of a political conspiracy by senior law enforcement officials against the Trump campaign to favor Democrat Hillary Clinton, while also knocking the bureau for procedural shortcomings,” according to WaPo. The publication cited two anonymous U.S. officials who are in the know.
The IG’s review will reportedly also say that both the opening of an investigation into Papadopoulos and application for surveillance of Carter Page were justified.
And
Aside from the document alteration allegation, the Post reports, Horowitz is expected to shame the FBI for “systemic failures in its handling of surveillance applications” and recommend reforms. The former FBI lawyer, who was ousted from the bureau after the alleged alteration was discovered, is said to be the “most significant” case the IG report produced, even though others individuals did not escape criticism.
An anonymous individual said to be familiar with Horowitz’s investigation stated the obvious: “You can see how the warring factions will seize on the various parts of this to advance their respective narratives.”

Both sidesism disease. What the hell narrative are. I assume the democrats. going to seize on?

Trump lackeys - there was a long reaching conspiracy to undermine the trump candidacy, perpetrated by pro Clinton forces in the FBI.

Other people - no there wasn’t.

[Gaucho]

[Morkle]

This dude can’t be on these committees. Seems like it’s a major conflict of interest now.

[Morkle]

And by on the committees, I mean testifying.

[Troy Loney]

I would ignore Parnas, he seems desperate for congress to give him immunity, which is not something they should do.