Politics And Current Events

Post by **PFiDC** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:08 pm

tifosi77 wrote:Indiana's governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

This will not end well.

It also allows Jewish and Muslim businesses to reject pork eating customers, gay businesses to reject anti gay business, etc...

Post by **Factorial** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:12 pm

PFiDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Indiana's governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

This will not end well.
It also allows Jewish and Muslim businesses to reject pork eating customers, gay businesses to reject anti gay business, etc...

What about refusing to serve other races? Might we see "No Colored" in restaurant windows in IN?

Post by **obhave** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:23 pm

PFiDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Indiana's governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

This will not end well.
It also allows Jewish and Muslim businesses to reject pork eating customers, gay businesses to reject anti gay business, etc...

All around a really terrible law.

Post by **PFiDC** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:26 pm

obhave wrote:
PFiDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Indiana's governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

This will not end well.
It also allows Jewish and Muslim businesses to reject pork eating customers, gay businesses to reject anti gay business, etc...
All around a really terrible law.

Agreed. Nope....I'm not libertarian.

Post by **PFiDC** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:26 pm

Factorial wrote:
PFiDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Indiana's governor signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

This will not end well.
It also allows Jewish and Muslim businesses to reject pork eating customers, gay businesses to reject anti gay business, etc...
What about refusing to serve other races? Might we see "No Colored" in restaurant windows in IN?

I hope not.

Post by **Shyster** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:05 pm

obhave wrote:All around a really terrible law.

Yeah, it' totally wrong that people have a choice over what to do with their own bodies and how, when, and where they choose to expend their own personal skills and labor.

Post by **columbia** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:13 pm

How to Block a Surveillance Camera: A DIY Art Tutorial from Ai Weiwei
http://www.brainpickings.org/2013/07/31 ... era-do-it/

Post by **Factorial** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:25 pm

Has anyone invited Geezer over here yet? His views are always welcomed by me.

Post by **obhave** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:33 pm

Shyster wrote:
obhave wrote:All around a really terrible law.
Yeah, it' totally wrong that people have a choice over what to do with their own bodies and how, when, and where they choose to expend their own personal skills and labor.

Would you be okay with businesses refusing people based on race?

Post by **Factorial** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:38 pm

obhave wrote:
Shyster wrote:
obhave wrote:All around a really terrible law.
Yeah, it' totally wrong that people have a choice over what to do with their own bodies and how, when, and where they choose to expend their own personal skills and labor.
Would you be okay with businesses refusing people based on race?

Rand Paul is on the record with being OK with that, the idea being that any business who does so will face a backlash. That may work in most places but not in bf Mississippi, etc.

Post by **obhave** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:41 pm

We are already seeing the backlash for this law, in terms of money coming into the state. I hope that continues.

Post by **tifosi77** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:46 pm

Gov Pence has probably racked up close to $5 billion in negative economic impact to Indiana based on the businesses, large and small, that are likely to bail on the state. GenCon, NCAA, SalesForce.com......

Post by **Freddy Rumsen** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:56 pm

Factorial wrote:
obhave wrote:
Shyster wrote:
obhave wrote:All around a really terrible law.
Yeah, it' totally wrong that people have a choice over what to do with their own bodies and how, when, and where they choose to expend their own personal skills and labor.
Would you be okay with businesses refusing people based on race?
Rand Paul is on the record with being OK with that, the idea being that any business who does so will face a backlash. That may work in most places but not in bf Mississippi, etc.

I know Hollywood has done a great job of prejudicing folks against the fair state of my current residence, but I have noticed a far more "tolerant" interaction between the races in bfe Mississippi than I did working in a warehouse in Pittsburgh.

Post by **tifosi77** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:02 pm

Part of that might be reduced opportunity for interaction. Only about 1/4 of Pittsburgh's population is African American, but they make up nearly 40% of Mississippi's population. In Hollidaysburg/Altoona, I did not share a classroom with an African American student until my junior year of high school.

Post by **shafnutz05** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:07 pm

tifosi77 wrote:Part of that might be reduced opportunity for interaction. Only about 1/4 of Pittsburgh's population is African American, but they make up nearly 40% of Mississippi's population. In Hollidaysburg/Altoona, I did not share a classroom with an African American student until my junior year of high school.

Yup. The racist frat bro at Oklahoma is a perfect example. There is a ton of racism in the middle and upper classes in the more affluent parts of the country, especially among the age group that is supposed to be the most tolerant.

Growing up in Altoona I lived just off the blackest street in the entire city. There was a basketball court that was shared by all, and that probably did more for local race relations than anything else.

Post by **tifosi77** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:15 pm

Why'd it have to be a basketball court.......

Post by **Freddy Rumsen** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:25 pm

Shad can't jump

Post by **columbia** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:04 am

We just need 534 more stories like this....

Harry Reid Says He Won’t Seek Re-Election
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us/po ... etire.html

Post by **columbia** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:13 am

VICE and HBO Enter Major Deal to Expand News Programming
https://news.vice.com/article/vice-and- ... vicenewsfb

Post by **grunthy** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:42 am

columbia wrote:We just need 534 more stories like this....

Harry Reid Says He Won’t Seek Re-Election
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us/po ... etire.html

Hopefully McConnell is next...

Post by **Factorial** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:16 am

columbia wrote:We just need 534 more stories like this....

Harry Reid Says He Won’t Seek Re-Election
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us/po ... etire.html

His heir apparent:

and there is a good chance he will be majority leader in 2016.

Post by **tifosi77** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:48 pm

columbia wrote:VICE and HBO Enter Major Deal to Expand News Programming
https://news.vice.com/article/vice-and- ... vicenewsfb

I haven't watched a single episode of VICE, and I feel like I'm worse off for it. I just recorded the recent episode that talks about long line fishing, but it's just sitting on the DVR, staring at me accusingly.

Post by **Freddy Rumsen** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:54 pm

Factorial wrote:
columbia wrote:We just need 534 more stories like this....

Harry Reid Says He Won’t Seek Re-Election
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us/po ... etire.html
His heir apparent:

and there is a good chance he will be majority leader in 2016.

What is it with Democrats and rich, white, men leading their party?

Post by **tifosi77** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:58 pm

HEY...... don't forget the rich, white women.

Post by **PFiDC** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:28 pm

Would we be better off if a poor (and most likely uneducated because of that economic status) black man/woman was leading the government? Maybe, but probably not. That's why I don't get the whole "RICH WHITE MEN RULE THE WORLD! TIME FOR A CHANGE!" Okay...Rich black man, check. Nope...that isn't working. I guess a rich latino woman is next. Maybe if she's a lesbian that would do the trick...