Politics And Current Events

[Gaucho]

Will President Pelosi even run for re-election?

[willeyeam]

This tweet seems like it was a bad idea

[Troy Loney]

Tell us the proper interpretation. Should we have not read your post and just read your mind?

Disclaimer, this is clearly a waste of time, but I think I'll go ahead and do it anyway.

I posed the question, "what do people think the difference is between the US and Russia".

The question assumes that there is a difference, so the premise that I implied Trump and Putin are the same is actually the opposite of what I was saying, because being the same and being different would be opposites.

My reason for posing the question was based on Trump's DOJ and DOS working to benefit Trump and not the country. IMIO (in my "ignorant" opinion), this is how authoritarian governments operate. I think that the "difference" between US and Russia is our checks and balances system that combats open corruption (we like our corruption to be in the form of lobbying and post-service "consulting"). By discounting these blatant manipulations of government agencies and their subsequent obstruction of congressional oversight, you weaken the checks and balances.

That of course isn't the only difference between the two, Russia is run by an organized crime outfit that emerged post-privatization, they are a seasoned crime state, I think to assume the US can't go down that path is conflicted by the arguments that Trump's conduct shouldn't be penalized.

The idea that the US and Russia are the same, or that anyone would even argue that, is completely preposterous, so to interpret a question that asks "what the difference is" as stating that they are the same is something. So, next time, before constructing a high horse to climb on, maybe think reexamine the question to not assume that people who disagree with you are idiots.

[grunthy]

I don't understand what people think the difference is between Putin's Russia and the US. It's like there's this assumption that the "institutions" will protect from tyranny...then argue against employing those machinations to combat authoritarian tendencies.

Where is the question in this? It seems like a statement of opinion.

[Troy Loney]

I don't understand what people think the difference is between Putin's Russia and the US. It's like there's this assumption that the "institutions" will protect from tyranny...then argue against employing those machinations to combat authoritarian tendencies.

Where is the question in this? It seems like a statement of opinion.

A statement asking what people think the difference is.

But yes, it could have been worded cleaner. But it would never occur to me to think that the US and Russia are the same.

[MR25]

RE: Checks and Balances

The checks and balances only work if there isn't one side that also appears to be complicit in allowing us to reach this point. The inaction and conduct of GOP leaders in Congress regarding this from Mitch McConnell down is appalling. The obstructionism, intentional obfuscation, and lack of spine is how we have gotten to this point with Trump in the first place, and it's all because he has an R next to his name.

The checks and balances cannot work if one side refuses to carry their end of the bargain to balance the executive's conduct.

[grunthy]

RE: Checks and Balances

The checks and balances only work if there isn't one side that also appears to be complicit in allowing us to reach this point. The inaction and conduct of GOP leaders in Congress regarding this from Mitch McConnell down is appalling. The obstructionism, intentional obfuscation, and lack of spine is how we have gotten to this point with Trump in the first place, and it's all because he has an R next to his name.

The checks and balances cannot work if one side refuses to carry their end of the bargain to balance the executive's conduct.

Well now that we actually have an dadhole in the white House that should not be allowed to be president, no one cares because everyone was always hitler, the biggest racist ever, the biggest sexist ever, and etc. Wolf was cried too many times. So now an environment was created where this type of person will be accepted by a segment of the country.

[MR25]

I'm failing to see what that post has to do with Congress doing their job in the checks and balances system.

[grunthy]

I'm failing to see what that post has to do with Congress doing their job in the checks and balances system.

Without a prosecutable crime, good luck removing a president with a party approval above 90%.

The Dems would do the same thing to get re-elected in their districts or states.

Voting is one of the ultimate checks and balances.

[MR25]

But that's exactly my point. Congress and the legislative branch is supposed to be there to balance out the executive. That should be done regardless of party. It isn't being done. And then you say "Well checks and balances will stop him from doing XYZ"... the branch responsible for checks and balances have let him get away with everything from A to W because half of the people in it either don't care or actively engage in enabling the executive.. What have they shown you that makes you say they would even consider drawing a line and be like "OK, that's enough"?

[grunthy]

But that's exactly my point. Congress and the legislative branch is supposed to be there to balance out the executive. That should be done regardless of party. It isn't being done.

Blame how congress appeals to their voters by talking to the lunatic fringe in each party. It’s causing a massive partisan divide.

[grunthy]

But that's exactly my point. Congress and the legislative branch is supposed to be there to balance out the executive. That should be done regardless of party. It isn't being done. And then you say "Well checks and balances will stop him from doing XYZ"... the branch responsible for checks and balances have let him get away with everything from A to W because half of the people in it either don't care or actively engage in enabling the executive.. What have they shown you that makes you say they would even consider drawing a line and be like "OK, that's enough"?

Our system has so many checks and balances built in that it is virtually impossible for someone to accumulate power and cause us to go down the path of organized crime government like Russia. He has already done enough that I don’t believe he should be in office anymore. I just believe removal by impeachment isn’t the answer. Voting him out is. Though he will **** ing win again if warren is the nominee.

[Troy Loney]

And Trump's actions as President are casting doubt on the premise that we'll have a free and fair election.

Using the DOJ and DOS to manufacture dirt on your challengers does that. That he was caught doing that is reason enough to impeach and not make his removal up to the electorate.

[grunthy]

And Trump's actions as President are casting doubt on the premise that we'll have a free and fair election.

Using the DOJ and DOS to manufacture dirt on your challengers does that. That he was caught doing that is reason enough to impeach and not make his removal up to the electorate.

So you have your excuse already built in if warren is the nominee I guess...

Trump is such a gigantic ass that is corrupt to the core, so whatever he manufactures will pale in comparison to who he is running against. But people will vote like they always do if some of their core policies are in danger (like 2nd amendment and such).

[MR25]

[Gaucho]

The funny thing is the baby-eating lady is a Trump supporter.

[Gaucho]

Also, in keeping with the spirit of this thread, I will point out that eating babies would indeed be a solution to the climate crisis. In theory.

[Morkle]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... nned-stunt

Conservatives attacked Ocasio-Cortez over a bizarre town hall speaker. Now, a pro-Trump fringe group says it planned the stunt.

[eddy]

L-I-V-I-N

[Troy Loney]

Wow between this and the Elizabeth Warren sex scandal, the democrats are in disarray!

[Troy Loney]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/46 ... n-politics

To quote the great Marcus Aurelius from The Gladiator, “Your faults as a son are my failures as a father.” I owe all of my work ethic, character, integrity, and moral fiber to my father. Hunter Biden can say the same.

Ah yes, Marcus Aurelius, from the Russell Crowe movie.

[NailedPenguin]

Hoaxes are suddenly a big deal. Just this one tho.

[Trip McNeely]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/46 ... n-politics

To quote the great Marcus Aurelius from The Gladiator, “Your faults as a son are my failures as a father.” I owe all of my work ethic, character, integrity, and moral fiber to my father. Hunter Biden can say the same.

Ah yes, Marcus Aurelius, from the Russell Crowe movie.

That’s just amazing. The great Marcus Aurelius from the Gladiator LOLOLOLOL

[Willie Kool]

Wow between this and the Elizabeth Warren sex scandal, the democrats are in disarray!

The dam is breaking...

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

Also, in keeping with the spirit of this thread, I will point out that eating babies would indeed be a solution to the climate crisis. In theory.

Do you just substitute baby in for veal?