Politics And Current Events

[count2infinity]

Shut your ignorant pie hole you whiny little brat. Your dreams have been stolen? You live in literally the most peaceful, prosperous, and care-free era is the entire history of humanity. You come from a country that hasn't been at war in more than a century and operates one of the word's most-extensive cradle-to-grave welfare states. You have never known anything other than safety, clean water, vaccines against disease, and the best modern medicine money can buy. You call economic growth "fairy tales"? How about you go to places like the slums of India or the backwoods of Africa—you know, those places where people regularly lack all of the modern conveniences of life that you take for granted—and tell those people that they need to sacrifice their opportunities for "economic growth" in the name of "climate change." At best, they'll laugh in your ignorant face. At worst, they'd dispense the ass-whooping you so richly deserve. Shut up and grow up before you lecture adults, you know-nothing teenage twit.

I'd say that's directly attacking her, yes?

[Trip McNeely]

Shut your ignorant pie hole you whiny little brat. Your dreams have been stolen? You live in literally the most peaceful, prosperous, and care-free era is the entire history of humanity. You come from a country that hasn't been at war in more than a century and operates one of the word's most-extensive cradle-to-grave welfare states. You have never known anything other than safety, clean water, vaccines against disease, and the best modern medicine money can buy. You call economic growth "fairy tales"? How about you go to places like the slums of India or the backwoods of Africa—you know, those places where people regularly lack all of the modern conveniences of life that you take for granted—and tell those people that they need to sacrifice their opportunities for "economic growth" in the name of "climate change." At best, they'll laugh in your ignorant face. At worst, they'd dispense the ass-whooping you so richly deserve. Shut up and grow up before you lecture adults, you know-nothing teenage twit.

I'd say that's directly attacking her, yes?

LOL

[Gaucho]

sad

[Freddy Rumsen]

I was asking for a list, not examples.

But thanks for taking the time to search.

[count2infinity]

Oh... my bad.

List:
Shyster
And Shad immediately after:

[Freddy Rumsen]

I just need to know if I'm on the naughty list.

Worries me deeply.

[Troy Loney]

Not sure why it's hard to see that, however rationally it was that you've personally developed your opinion on the matter, there are raving lunatics on all sides of the spectrum?

[tifosi77]

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

O: Well! it CAN be!

M: No it can't!

M: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is! It isn't just contradiction.

O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

M: Yes but it isn't just saying 'no it isn't'.

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

O: It is NOT!

M: It is!

O: Not at all!

M: It is!

[NailedPenguin]

It's always easier to attack the messenger than address the reason for the message.

The message sucks too. You'd think people would learn by now that "were all going to die it's the end of the world" isnt an effective message for anything. Tax breaks were going to kill a bunch of people too for Christs sake.

Campaign on just treating the environment better and offer solutions (that you actually practice yourselves) and I think most would get on board.

"We have 10 years left unless you monsters change everything in your lives" is just going to get more people to tell you to go F yourselves.

[tifosi77]

It is quite apparent that she has PR people behind her. And it is even more apparent since she can never go outside her prepared speech. You can for example look at the panel session in Davos where she is given questions regarding what concrete measures we could do. She can't come up with any concrete suggestion in that setting, but I would appreciate if you could show me some clip where she has one concrete solution.

I believe part of her spectrum is that she also has selective mutism, which probably makes extemporaneous public speaking - like answering questions on the fly - a bit of a challenge for her.

Also, while I'm perfectly happy to have a teenager thumb their nose at the establishment - be it through a TED Talk on environmentalism or a 2-minute punk rock song about eating rich people - I'm not necessarily going to look to them for the answers to that problem that the sum total of adult humanity has not been able to provide.

[Gaucho]

Also, while I'm perfectly happy to have a teenager thumb their nose at the establishment - be it through a TED Talk on environmentalism or a 2-minute punk rock song about eating rich people - I'm not necessarily going to look to them for the answers to that problem that the sum total of adult humanity has not been able to provide.

[AuthorTony]

Campaign on just treating the environment better and offer solutions (that you actually practice yourselves) and I think most would get on board.

"We have 10 years left unless you monsters change everything in your lives" is just going to get more people to tell you to go F yourselves.

I agree with you, but this is more endemic of society than any particular message. Everything has to be an end of the world scenario.

Obama is going to steal our guns and institute Sharia law!
Trump is the new Hitler!
Obamacare is going to have death panels that kill the elderly and weak!

Subtlety is a lost art.

[Freddy Rumsen]

It is quite apparent that she has PR people behind her. And it is even more apparent since she can never go outside her prepared speech. You can for example look at the panel session in Davos where she is given questions regarding what concrete measures we could do. She can't come up with any concrete suggestion in that setting, but I would appreciate if you could show me some clip where she has one concrete solution.

I believe part of her spectrum is that she also has selective mutism, which probably makes extemporaneous public speaking - like answering questions on the fly - a bit of a challenge for her.

Also, while I'm perfectly happy to have a teenager thumb their nose at the establishment - be it through a TED Talk on environmentalism or a 2-minute punk rock song about eating rich people - I'm not necessarily going to look to them for the answers to that problem that the sum total of adult humanity has not been able to provide.

Then maybe adults shouldn't be putting a child out as a spokesperson.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[shafnutz05]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-t ... a-n1101416

There's some good stuff in here, but the point about Twitter vs. reality is an especially salient one. I would also say the increased urbanization of Labour is definitely reflected in some respects here. The county-by-county electoral map every four years certainly lends credence to it.

But beyond unpopularity and Brexit, last night’s election showed the limits of campaigning and winning on ideology. A socialist or very left-leaning message — inspired to turn out young voters and unite the working class — simply didn’t work.

It also showed what happens to a party when it becomes primarily an urban party.

“The tide has gone so far out for Labour that it is now predominantly a party of the English cities and their commuter suburbs. Seat after seat in its traditional strongholds across central and northern England and north Wales fell to the Conservatives,” Helen Lewis writes in The Atlantic.

And it shows the limits of the Twitter Left.

As NBC’s Keir Simmons noted on “Today,” this morning, the Twitter Left in Britain thought it was building momentum and winning the argument.

“One commentator today, perhaps with a lesson for America again, saying: ‘Never believe that Twitter reflects the country,’” Simmons said.

[Troy Loney]

I also think center-left people hated Corbyn personally, as opposed to labor policies.

[Freddy Rumsen]

The #1 reason Boris won last is Corbyn.

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Freddy Rumsen]

"If my aunt had....she'd be my uncle."

[Freddy Rumsen]

[shafnutz05]

"If my aunt had....she'd be my uncle."

[Gaucho]

[Gaucho]

[Freddy Rumsen]

Reading a book on American foreign policy in the greater Middle East from Carter to present and regardless of administration it's been one bad idea and decision after another with no one seeming to learn the lessons from the previous State and Defense department mistakes.

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Gaucho]