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Postby eddy » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:58 pm

regarding the time zone thing, at this point, I feel like some people are just throwing ridiculous things out there to see if he'll actually say that he understands how time zones work

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Postby dodint » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:08 pm

Parking lot shooter charged in Florida 'stand your ground' case
Prosecutors charged Michael Drejka, the man accused of killing Markeis McGlockton in a shooting that has reignited a debate around Florida’s stand your ground law, with manslaughter Monday.

According to the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office, Drejka was taken into custody Monday morning. He will be booked into the Pinellas County Jail this afternoon.

Drejka, 47, has avoided arrest since he shot 28-year-old McGlockton on July 19 because of the controversial self-defense law that eliminated one’s duty to retreat before resorting to force.

Pinellas Sheriff Bob Gualtieri announced July 20 that his agency was precluded from arresting Drejka because evidence showed it was "within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified," which provides immunity from arrest, the sheriff said. He forwarded the case Aug. 1 to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to make a final charging determination.

State Attorney Bernie McCabe’s decision to charge Drejka signals that prosecutors believe they can show by "clear and convincing" evidence that a stand your ground defense is not applicable in Drejka’s case.

State legislators revised the law last year to put the onus on prosecutors to disprove a stand your ground claim instead of on defense attorneys to prove one.
This the guy that would antagonize people of parking violations at the gas station? If so, good.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:11 pm

Parking lot shooter charged in Florida 'stand your ground' case
Prosecutors charged Michael Drejka, the man accused of killing Markeis McGlockton in a shooting that has reignited a debate around Florida’s stand your ground law, with manslaughter Monday.

According to the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office, Drejka was taken into custody Monday morning. He will be booked into the Pinellas County Jail this afternoon.

Drejka, 47, has avoided arrest since he shot 28-year-old McGlockton on July 19 because of the controversial self-defense law that eliminated one’s duty to retreat before resorting to force.

Pinellas Sheriff Bob Gualtieri announced July 20 that his agency was precluded from arresting Drejka because evidence showed it was "within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified," which provides immunity from arrest, the sheriff said. He forwarded the case Aug. 1 to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to make a final charging determination.

State Attorney Bernie McCabe’s decision to charge Drejka signals that prosecutors believe they can show by "clear and convincing" evidence that a stand your ground defense is not applicable in Drejka’s case.

State legislators revised the law last year to put the onus on prosecutors to disprove a stand your ground claim instead of on defense attorneys to prove one.
This the guy that would antagonize people of parking violations at the gas station? If so, good.
Yes, this is the same guy.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:15 pm

Parking lot shooter charged in Florida 'stand your ground' case
Prosecutors charged Michael Drejka, the man accused of killing Markeis McGlockton in a shooting that has reignited a debate around Florida’s stand your ground law, with manslaughter Monday.

According to the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office, Drejka was taken into custody Monday morning. He will be booked into the Pinellas County Jail this afternoon.

Drejka, 47, has avoided arrest since he shot 28-year-old McGlockton on July 19 because of the controversial self-defense law that eliminated one’s duty to retreat before resorting to force.

Pinellas Sheriff Bob Gualtieri announced July 20 that his agency was precluded from arresting Drejka because evidence showed it was "within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified," which provides immunity from arrest, the sheriff said. He forwarded the case Aug. 1 to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to make a final charging determination.

State Attorney Bernie McCabe’s decision to charge Drejka signals that prosecutors believe they can show by "clear and convincing" evidence that a stand your ground defense is not applicable in Drejka’s case.

State legislators revised the law last year to put the onus on prosecutors to disprove a stand your ground claim instead of on defense attorneys to prove one.
This the guy that would antagonize people of parking violations at the gas station? If so, good.
Yes, this is the same guy.
This is wonderful news. IIRC at the time it sounded like they definitely weren't going to pursue charges. Throw the book at him.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:20 pm

I don't like that the article says accused of killing Markeis McGlockton. There is video of him shooting him, and it was murder.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:25 pm

Parking lot shooter charged in Florida 'stand your ground' case
Prosecutors charged Michael Drejka, the man accused of killing Markeis McGlockton in a shooting that has reignited a debate around Florida’s stand your ground law, with manslaughter Monday.

According to the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office, Drejka was taken into custody Monday morning. He will be booked into the Pinellas County Jail this afternoon.

Drejka, 47, has avoided arrest since he shot 28-year-old McGlockton on July 19 because of the controversial self-defense law that eliminated one’s duty to retreat before resorting to force.

Pinellas Sheriff Bob Gualtieri announced July 20 that his agency was precluded from arresting Drejka because evidence showed it was "within the bookends of stand your ground and within the bookends of force being justified," which provides immunity from arrest, the sheriff said. He forwarded the case Aug. 1 to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to make a final charging determination.

State Attorney Bernie McCabe’s decision to charge Drejka signals that prosecutors believe they can show by "clear and convincing" evidence that a stand your ground defense is not applicable in Drejka’s case.

State legislators revised the law last year to put the onus on prosecutors to disprove a stand your ground claim instead of on defense attorneys to prove one.
This the guy that would antagonize people of parking violations at the gas station? If so, good.
Yes, this is the same guy.
This is wonderful news. IIRC at the time it sounded like they definitely weren't going to pursue charges. Throw the book at him.
It seems the way SYG works in Florida, once someone invokes it as a defense the police cannot make an arrest. They have to refer the case to prosecutors for an ultimate charging decision. That's a wrinkle in the law that I was unaware of at the time of the incident.

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Postby NailedPenguin » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:29 pm

Lionel Hutz here wasn't aware of that little wrinkle.

:slug:

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Postby mikey » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:55 pm

Lionel Hutz is dead. Say hello to Miguel Sanchez!

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Postby AuthorTony » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:11 pm

This just keeps getting weirder.
https://www.ajc.com/news/local/prosecut ... XbHIAM0VO/
A Clayton County boy apparently died during a “ritual” in the New Mexico desert witnessed by children who were told the 3-year-old would come back to life as Jesus, officials revealed in a Monday court hearing.

Abdul-Ghani Wahhaj’s father took him from his home in Georgia in November. Remains believed to be the young boy’s were found in a tunnel at a makeshift compound in Taos County, New Mexico, earlier this month. Authorities said Monday that Abdul-Ghani likely died in February.

His father, Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, four other adults and 11 other children were also at the compound.

Authorities have said the suspects are believed to be Muslim extremists and were training the children to become school shooters.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:35 pm

Jesus is a prophet (but not THE prophet) in Islam, no?

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Postby AuthorTony » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:11 pm

That's what I always thought.

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Postby Kaiser » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:36 pm

As dubious as the Quran is, I doubt there's anything from Jesus about changing mags between classrooms.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:42 pm

Islam also teaches that Jesus will return to defeat the antichrist and establish peace on Earth. In fact Jesus and/or "the son of Mary" is mentioned almost 100 times in the Koran. It also testifies that Jesus was born of a virgin.

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:28 am

Meanwhile in Genoa.

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:44 am

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:50 am

I don't like that the article says accused of killing Markeis McGlockton. There is video of him shooting him, and it was murder.
That is how articles are supposed to be written

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Postby Viva la Ben » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:56 am

When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:03 am

Venezuela could be Norway, but instead they choose to be...Venezuela
I've never really noticed it before but Venezuela is a weird looking word
Nicolas Maduro tells Venezuelan drivers the days of being able to fill up their tanks with some of the cheapest gasoline in the world are over
https://twitter.com/business/status/1029335074582528000

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:04 am

Meanwhile in Genoa.

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That looks like Aspinwall/Sharpsburg.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:21 am

The Reality Show Presidency lives on. On Monday night, Katrina Pierson says a phone conversation in Omarosa's book never took place. SURPRISE! It was recorded. When you hire people who only have loyalty to themselves (emulating their boss), this is the result.
https://twitter.com/JayCaruso/status/10 ... 6340354051

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Postby Viva la Ben » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:41 am

I guess wacky Omarosa talked about some WH aides discussing how to spin the alleged Trump N word tapes. The aides involved deny any such discussion took place, and then Omarosa dropped the tape of the conversation.
Would it even matter if a Trump N word tape was made public? I’m talking even with the strict denials of the last few days.

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Postby Morkle » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:44 am

Is there said transcripts of these tapes? I feel like I keep hearing about them but am seeing nothing about them. I'll believe they exist when I hear audio with transcripts.

edit - listening to it now in the link above.

lol at the end "she sounds like she's writing a script for a movie." credit to her for dropping it immediately. It's not really proof he said it, the lady was just speculating and convincing herself he said it based on his interactions with the other lady.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:47 am

So basically Omarosa writes in her book about this conversation about the tape, those involved deny the conversation, and them Omarosa drops an tape of the conversation?

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Postby Morkle » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:48 am

That's my understanding of it lol.

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Postby Troy Loney » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:50 am

So yeah, considering that seems to be the most damning thing in the stupid book, the WH should probably just stop denying everything.

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