Politics And Current Events

[Troy Loney]

Duncan Hunter has become the second congressman from CA-50 to plead guilty to criming while in office. The seat is like the Illinois governor's desk, and seems to invite misconduct.

I like how he tried to throw his wife under the bus and save himself. Classy guy.

I think it was also part of the indictment that he was using funds on affairs

[Gaucho]

[Gaucho]

[Gaucho]

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Trip McNeely]

It’s interesting that since my opinion differs from yours there’s “chronological snobbery” and they couldn’t do math. Predicting the future has a lot of factors. What do you think the US population will be in 200 years? I think it’s more complicated than a math problem.

There are 19 or 20 cities in the US with larger populations than the largest whole state had as of the first census (and two cities with larger populations than the entire country had at that time), and life expectancy then was not even 40 years for men. The Framers did not have the actuarial capacity to foresee a country of 350 million people expected to live into their 8th decade; no one did in the 1780s.

But to me, the issue isn't so much just expansion and population growth, it's the way that population is dispersed. I remember reading a paper back when I was in college that it would be possible for something like a 5% minority of the overall population to veto a constitutional amendment, if that population was dispersed widely enough among a small number of states. So something with 95% 'broad appeal' is theoretically not a sure thing. Similarly, depending on how the population is dispersed, we could have as little as around a 40% minority pass a constitutional amendment.

Now, that has been true in this country since the early 1800s, and we haven't seen it take place. So that's a good thing. And there are a lot of moving parts to the equation that limit the real-world possibility of situations like that arising....... but as we continue to ever self-sort into pockets of regional political affiliation, and certain groups ever trend towards smaller and smaller sub-divisions, that kind of thing becomes more and more possible.

It's one of the reasons why I'm against leaving the Electoral College as it is: We've had instances where the winner of the popular vote lost in the EC like five times, but two of them have been in the last five elections, and it is more likely to happen with greater frequency if these population/demographic trends continue. It casts a pall over the presidency, and can challenge the notion that the winner has 'broad support' among the states.

The idea that people in the 18th century could not foresee 350 million people is so silly as to be eyeroll worthy.

These guys weren't cavemen.

In Jefferson's lifetime Kentucky by itself went from zero white people to 550,000 not counting slaves and you think he couldn't foresee that growing in similar numbers from sea to shining sea?

You need to get off the binary train. Just because some think they couldn’t foresee the huge numbers doesn’t mean we think they were dumb. It means they were human. As I said before, it’s not a simple math calculation. There were so many different technological and medical advances, it seems eyeroll worthy that one can think people (even the non stupid FF) would account for.

Did you read the post from Trip above you before posting this?

You do realize it was a joke.

[Morkle]

Pretty convinced the original Russian investigation was kneecapped, and obstructed the whole way now.

Truly wonder how many people are tied to Russia from the republican side.

[AuthorTony]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 30346.html

Trump border wall $400 million contract handed to company owned by Republican donor who promoted firm on Fox News

[shafnutz05]

He is one interesting man

[Troy Loney]

Pretty convinced the original Russian investigation was kneecapped, and obstructed the whole way now.

Truly wonder how many people are tied to Russia from the republican side.

I think in general there is massive conflation between political liability and criminal liability. The criminal stuff just got rolled into what should have been a factual review of what happened. The report basically says that don jr took the 5th, as he didn’t have really any criminal liability, that essentially just stonewalled muellers ability to get info.

I think the majority of the incriminating behavior was not criminal, but the trump camp was allowed due process as though the whole thing was a criminal probe, which in turn kept the public in the dark as to a lot of the information.

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Dickie Dunn]

He must have forgot about the Native American in the race.

[crusherstasiak]

He must have forgot about the Native American in the race.

9/10

[grunthy]

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

[Trip McNeely]

One reason I am not worried about our long term alliances is every leader realizes what a joke he is.

[Morkle]

Pretty convinced the original Russian investigation was kneecapped, and obstructed the whole way now.

Truly wonder how many people are tied to Russia from the republican side.

I think in general there is massive conflation between political liability and criminal liability. The criminal stuff just got rolled into what should have been a factual review of what happened. The report basically says that don jr took the 5th, as he didn’t have really any criminal liability, that essentially just stonewalled muellers ability to get info.

I think the majority of the incriminating behavior was not criminal, but the trump camp was allowed due process as though the whole thing was a criminal probe, which in turn kept the public in the dark as to a lot of the information.

We would need to believe that nothing criminal wasn't removed by Hack Barr in the first place. Considering he's still going to great lengths to discredit whatever is in the report.

They still haven't shown it fully unredacted.

Nunes, being on the intelligence committee, but wholly wrapped up in working with Guiliani and Parnes certainly allowed for things to either get leaked or directed away from Mob money, etc.

Just all shady, shady stuff.

[Gaucho]

[Freddy Rumsen]

Nice to see Prime Minister Ralph Northam enjoying himself as well.

[blackjack68]

Hillary Clinton on Stern this morning.

Let the love fest commence.

[grunthy]

Imagine joking about a racist old man with a person that wears black face.

[Viva la Ben]

[Kane]

People in his community should protest.

[Morkle]

I mean was there anything racist being joked about there?