Politics And Current Events

[NTP66]

Source of the post but at least they had to up and leave the state to filibuster rather than push a button.

If it's to preserve voting rights, I'm all for it.

[count2infinity]

I'd have been interested to see what would have happened right now had the tables been turned... GOP in control of house, senate, and whitehouse and they had legislature they wanted to pass. I can all but guarantee there'd be none of this hemming and hawing over eliminating/modifying the filibuster. It would have been gone within a week of them all getting sworn in.

[Gaucho]

rules for thee ...

[Troy Loney]

I'd have been interested to see what would have happened right now had the tables been turned... GOP in control of house, senate, and whitehouse and they had legislature they wanted to pass. I can all but guarantee there'd be none of this hemming and hawing over eliminating/modifying the filibuster. It would have been gone within a week of them all getting sworn in.

They don't have any legislative ambitions. They would just cut taxes, and they can do that through reconciliation.

[tifosi77]

The idea that it takes more votes to end debate on a measure than to pass it is just silly. Make the cloture threshold 40 votes and reinstate the talking filibuster and call it a day.

[King Colby]

Seems like we're overcomplicating it. Misinformation is not new. I'm a proponent of sharing educating material however possible, and what people do with it is their prerogative.

So would you be ok with the government sending out covid information via text as long as it’s not a direct response to a monitored message?

Yep

[CBear3]

The idea that it takes more votes to end debate on a measure than to pass it is just silly. Make the cloture threshold 40 votes and reinstate the talking filibuster and call it a day.

[Gaucho]

[tifosi77]

We need to get on that whole rake-the-forest thing.

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

We need to get on that whole rake-the-forest thing.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-worl ... -way-land/

[willeyeam]

Nice

[Kane]

Reality gets dumber every day.

[mikey]

I hope Joe Camel fills those ad spots...

[Troy Loney]

When we call it a death cult, it’s not hyperbole

[PFiDC]

Now THAT'S freedom

[Shyster]

genuine question…are they?

Most likely. There's an open constitutional controversy over what is commonly called the "third party doctrine." Back in the 1970s the SCOTUS held that people who voluntarily give information to third parties—such as banks and phone companies—have no expectation of privacy in that information, which means that Fourth Amendment protections either apply less or don't apply. But those decisions are somewhat out of date when it comes to modern concepts like cloud computing, text messaging, email, etc., and the SCOTUS really hasn't directly addressed the scope of the doctrine when it comes to modern tech. The government, of course, would want to argue that the third-party doctrine applies broadly because that would let the government go to Google, Verizon, Amazon Web Services, etc. and gain access to customers' information without warrants.

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

I would like to think these companies would tell the government to go pound sand. Hell Apple told the FBI they wouldn't create a back door for the Boston Marathon bombers phone.

[Troy Loney]

I would like to think these companies would tell the government to go pound sand. Hell Apple told the FBI they wouldn't create a back door for the Boston Marathon bombers phone.

These companies are intertwined closely with the government. Apple maybe less, but google and Facebook? They are basically rand corp

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

In Apple's case it may have been more of a security concern on their part. They're notorious for emphasis on security. I'd like to think these companies would want to protect their bottom line and customer interests but not exactly like consumers would have many places to go otherwise.

[willeyeam]

In Apple's case it may have been more of a security concern on their part. They're notorious for emphasis on security. I'd like to think these companies would want to protect their bottom line and customer interests but not exactly like consumers would have many places to go otherwise.

They make more money off your data than your trust

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

I didn't quite word that how I wanted but sort of what I meant by most users wouldn't really have much of a choice to go elsewhere for these services. However it'd probably be easier for the government to go to smaller services since most apps require the user to give access to contacts, text, photos, etc.

[faftorial]

Is LBL applying for Grunty's old position?

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

This was asked before, and my response is no since I don't have enough family members.

[Shyster]

If an 18-year-old man can be drafted by the Army and be given an M4, M249 SAW, or similar machine gun, then he should be able to buy a simple handgun from a licensed dealer. The Fourth Circuit just agreed:

[Kaiser]

Maybe 18 year old kids shouldnt be "drafted". Or be able to join the military at all.