Politics And Current Events

Postby **count2infinity** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:56 am

Do it, c2i! Assign credit! Do it now!

Ummm... The Almighty Science. Clearly.

Postby **Gaucho** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:59 am

Call it the Trump because it's a pain in the ass. I like.

Postby **Trip McNeely** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:01 am

I’m starting to believe that we are in a simulation. And that the normal beings running the simulation are out sick

Postby **Troy Loney** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:04 am

I am glad that shad’s comment can be addressed perfectly. Name the vaccine “Trump”.

Postby **CBear3** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:32 am

I’m starting to believe that we are in a simulation. And that the normal beings running the simulation are out sick

It's beginning to look like those "I forced AI to read 30 romance novels and then write its own" posts.

Postby **nocera** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:34 am

You don't name it the Trump because if you did you'd have nearly 80 million people that suddenly don't trust the vaccine.

Postby **Morkle** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:35 am

You don't name it the Trump because if you did you'd have nearly 80 million people that suddenly don't trust the vaccine.

around half the people of the US aren't going to trust it either way, so who cares what it's named?

Postby **nocera** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:36 am

You don't name it the Trump because if you did you'd have nearly 80 million people that suddenly don't trust the vaccine.
around half the people of the US aren't going to trust it either way, so who cares what it's named?

At least give it a chance to succeed. Keep politics as far away as possible.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:44 am

I don't think you really need to get to any additional layers for why you wouldn't name a vaccine "Trump". Should just be amused by Geraldo's oatmeal brain and move on.

Postby **dodint** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:49 am

You don't name it the Trump because if you did you'd have nearly 80 million people that suddenly don't trust the vaccine.

Postby **nocera** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:55 am

@dodint, do you disagree? I'm 100% on board with trusting the science but you don't think a large number of people wouldn't trust it just based on the Trump name? It'd be the same if it were called the Biden Shot. Or better yet, Obama Juice.

Postby **grunthy** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:56 am

@dodint, do you disagree? I'm 100% on board with trusting the science but you don't think a large number of people wouldn't trust it just based on the Trump name? It'd be the same if it were called the Biden Shot. Or better yet, Obama Juice.

Just allow people to choose between a “following the science” Vaccine and the Trump Vaccine. Problem solved.

Postby **dodint** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:56 am

I think you're taking the joke to heart.

Postby **Troy Loney** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:57 am

Shoutout to the courageous Tucker Carlson for being willing to say on his show that Sidney Powell doesn’t have evidence for her election fraud claims.

Way to stick your neck out and be a hero

Postby **nocera** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:58 am

I think you're taking the joke to heart.

Oh... Yeah I guess I am. My fault. It's honestly difficult to tell these days what's a joke and what's serious.

Postby **meow** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:00 am

Do it, c2i! Assign credit! Do it now!
Ummm... The Almighty Science. Clearly.

Oohhhh. So you are anti-faith, huh? What do you have against Jesus? I’ll see you in hell.

“He has a PhD so of course he is a BIG science guy.”

Postby **dodint** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:00 am

I think you're taking the joke to heart.
Oh... Yeah I guess I am. My fault. It's honestly difficult to tell these days what's a joke and what's serious.

It's sad that way, I mean, as a society.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:02 am

Shoutout to the courageous Tucker Carlson for being willing to say on his show that Sidney Powell doesn’t have evidence for her election fraud claims.

Way to stick your neck out and be a hero

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:05 am

Shoutout to the courageous Tucker Carlson for being willing to say on his show that Sidney Powell doesn’t have evidence for her election fraud claims.

Way to stick your neck out and be a hero

Powerline was/is a Trumper blog by guys in Minnesota so shootout to people calling it straight.

Postby **King Colby** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:13 am

Every time someone says "trust the science" I die a little more inside

Postby **Trip McNeely** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:15 am

I know a lot of people are gonna scoff at something like this...but honestly, it will be a relief to have the occasional nice thing come from the White House instead of daily debauchery

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:16 am

Biden already showing superpowers.

It's amazing to me how Paul Krugman still is employed.

Postby **faftorial** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:21 am

Every time someone says "trust the science" I die a little more inside

This wouldn't be a thing if we weren't' to believe that we should trust Trump's hunches.

Postby **King Colby** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:22 am

So all of the election nonsense aside...is it okay to say that Operation Warp Speed has been a great program? It sure seems like it.

I don't really care which political party is responsible, but it seems like it has been a very successful partnership between the government and private enterprise.
We'll see what the distribution looks like, but yes. This thread sort of hits the nail on the head:

Copied and pasted for those that don't want to read the thread on twitter:

I can tell you most of that time is spent doing nothing. It's spent submitting funding requests, then resubmitting them, then waiting, then submitting them somewhere else, then getting the money but the company changes it's mind or focus, then renegotiating then submitting ethics, then waiting for regulators then having problems with recruitment and having to open other sites, then dealing with more regulatory issues, then finally when you eventually get to the end of all of this you might have a therapy or not. At this point it may not be deemed profitable or any number of other obstacles.

However we have collectively now shown that with money no object, some clever and highly motivated people, an unlimited pool of altruistic volunteers and sensible regulators that we can do amazing things (necessity being the mother etc). These trials have been nothing short of miraculous, revolutionary but in the context perhaps it is not surprising given our ability to innovate when we REALLY need to...and we really needed to.

Love this. This has been my argument to anyone who tells me they don't trust a vaccine made that fast. I basically asked them to elaborate on what specific parts of the process went too fast for them to be comfortable and nobody ever has an answer other than "the whole thing".

Hopefully there's a lesson learned here that leads to alleviating some of the administrative burden in the process, understanding that there will still be the complicating factor of economics that were not relevant here.